Comments Thread For: Mosley's Trainer Could See Mayweather Folding After Five

[amayseng]

I hear you but Floyd is just too good in every aspect. Shane
is going to get frustrated and anxious and that's when Floyd
will capatilize off of Shane's mistakes. Floyd has fought bigger
guys in all the weight classes he has been in who had more power
than him and beat them almost effortlessly. I haven't see Floyd
in much trouble to think Shane has what it takes to make Floyd
fight his fight and get careless. Forrest and Winky showed a blue
print on how to beat Shane. Sure they were bigger than Shane
but Cotto wasn't and he didn't even have half the technical
assests or mind frame to go 12 rounds like Floyd and at times
he beat Mosley to the punch. The only way Floyd loses is if
he lets Mosley draw him into his kind of fight, which is stand
there and **** out with Shane. As long as Floyd boxes, switching
in and out of defense/offense and keeps his cool, he dominates
Shane. Floyd is going to make Shane tire in there. inn my opinion,
Floyd is a sure bet.

you make excellent points.
however i dont see it playing out like that.
forrest was taller with a phenomenal jab that set up a right hand, powerful.
winky was just too big and like i stated shane tried to out athlete him, it didnt work.
against cotto, i honestly, unbiased had shane winning 7-5 rounds. i watched it 3 different times, sound on, sound off.
cotto was able to negate some of shanes boxing skills because he has power in both hands and shane couldnt come rushing in. once he made that adjustment i think he pulled off the win, by rounds.

see my perspective is that floyd doesnt have that power(forrest, cotto) or size(winky) to negate what shane has to do to win.

and more importantly, floyd pot shots and does not fight in combinations anymore. he will not be able to win rounds by potshotting.

[WalkerSmith1921]

Just a thought?

real good post. Side note,,,,,zab is just as quick as shane but that is the only attribute that he may have over shane.....zab is smaller, gasses easier. and far less heart and concentration.

Shane is way to overrated in my opinion dudes. Zab had Cotto in trouble whereas Mosley didn't; so what happened to Mosley's supposed punching power? I don't know!
Cotto had to resort to ugly fighting just to get the win over Zab, whereas against Shane all he had to do was coast in the last few rounds because he already had the fight won!!
Mosley is not as invincible as many people would like to believe and I think Floyd beats him worse then he beat Judah.

[Ether]

This is what THEY want, Money will win by UD. Ofcourse lose the first round.

[switchsouthpaw]

Shane is way to overrated in my opinion dudes. Zab had Cotto in trouble whereas Mosley didn't; so what happened to Mosley's supposed punching power? I don't know!
Cotto had to resort to ugly fighting just to get the win over Zab, whereas against Shane all he had to do was coast in the last few rounds because he already had the fight won!!
Mosley is not as invincible as many people would like to believe and I think Floyd beats him worse then he beat Judah.

If Shane stays on top of Mayweather using intelligent pressure, he has a chance and it's his only chance. If he stays on the outside like everyone else he will get picked apart, Mosley is easy to hit but he has intangibles that make him a very good to great fighter, which is what a guy like Zab, despite having all the talent in the world...lacks.

Despite that Mosley is nearing 40, with his prime well behind him, he still possesses certain attributes that have allowed him to extend his career and still be competitive, but you cannot overlook inactivity for a guy nearing 40, when reflexes tend to dull it means everything.

There are two ways Mosley can win and both are unlikely, knockout or by being up on points, forcing May to come out of character.

[domiven7]

What?

what the hell are yall taking about? shane mosley has always had problems with good boxers. vernon forrest, winky wright, and even cotto who is a puncher even out boxed him, and those guys beat him. shane is going to fight the best boxer on the planet. what do you think is going to happen?

[switchsouthpaw]

what the hell are yall taking about? shane mosley has always had problems with good boxers. vernon forrest, winky wright, and even cotto who is a puncher even out boxed him, and those guys beat him. shane is going to fight the best boxer on the planet. what do you think is going to happen?

I'm just curious to see who Mayweather will fight after this...any names?

[deuce_drop]

and let the head games begin!!!! i say this because, we haven't heard anything coming from mosley's camp about any trash talk or any derogatory things, now richardson is throwing this out there, knowing full well that it will get under floyds skin, maybe making floyd fight a little recklessly? who knows, but richardson is no dummy, i seriously doubt that he believes what he says 100% in that comment, because he knows floyd, knows the game, and knows strategy; richardson has been around for a long time and is not only a master professor of the game but a philosopher too of the game........ i'm sure up until the opening bell, we're going to hear some more of these unconventional statements coming from mosley's camp.

[solly6]

The chances of Shane winning 5 rounds straight are slim to none. I cant believe this is what ****m is banking on. WOW. Floyd to give up mentallY?

Yea it won't happen. Shane needs to use his size and out work Floyd. If he isn't throwing a decent amount more punches I don't think he has a chance against a more accurate and better defensive fighter. He should try to keep up a high pace fight and try to turn it into a brawl. Floyd will always win the chess match.

[solly6]

you make excellent points.
however i dont see it playing out like that.
forrest was taller with a phenomenal jab that set up a right hand, powerful.
winky was just too big and like i stated shane tried to out athlete him, it didnt work.
against cotto, i honestly, unbiased had shane winning 7-5 rounds. i watched it 3 different times, sound on, sound off.
cotto was able to negate some of shanes boxing skills because he has power in both hands and shane couldnt come rushing in. once he made that adjustment i think he pulled off the win, by rounds.

see my perspective is that floyd doesnt have that power(forrest, cotto) or size(winky) to negate what shane has to do to win.

and more importantly, floyd pot shots and does not fight in combinations anymore. he will not be able to win rounds by potshotting.

I like the post. Even though I had Cotto beating Mosley by a couple rds I see your argument. I think Shane was starting to figure Cotto out it just came too late in the fight.
I think the major factor for this fight is that Floyd doesn't have power. Shane has to understand this and be willing to walk through some punches to land his own. I completely agree that FLOYD DOESN'T FIGHT IN COMBINATIONS ANYMORE. I can't believe that people who don't see this. I also think his foot speed has deteriorated. If Shane can fight an up tempo style (which he has failed to do in a lot of fights) I think he can give Floyd a lot of trouble and win a lot of rds. REMEMBER HATTON APPLIED PRESSURE EARLY ON AND WAS DOING ALRIGHT AND HE IS MUCH SMALLER AND LESSER OF A FIGHTER THAN SHANE.

[tredh]

you make excellent points.
however i dont see it playing out like that.
forrest was taller with a phenomenal jab that set up a right hand, powerful.
winky was just too big and like i stated shane tried to out athlete him, it didnt work.
against cotto, i honestly, unbiased had shane winning 7-5 rounds. i watched it 3 different times, sound on, sound off.
cotto was able to negate some of shanes boxing skills because he has power in both hands and shane couldnt come rushing in. once he made that adjustment i think he pulled off the win, by rounds.

see my perspective is that floyd doesnt have that power(forrest, cotto) or size(winky) to negate what shane has to do to win.

and more importantly, floyd pot shots and does not fight in combinations anymore. he will not be able to win rounds by potshotting.

Do you believe that PBF can no longer throw combinations? Could it be the PBF doesn't throw many combinations because no fighter has forced him to do it in a while?