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  • JONESJR22
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    #101
    Originally posted by amayseng
    absolutely. i agree.

    however, i see a different and more efficient strategy.

    i see shane throwing combos following efficient pressure, then jumping back away from floyds single pot shots....

    easily winning rounds due to activity, kinda like pac did against clottey.

    then midway thro the fight floyd may be down and have to fight a little then thats when shane mixes it up with power shots, then a round later back to combos, staying away for adding up rounds.

    pac won 11 rounds by just being active against clottey, he didnt land cleanly or accurately but did more.

    i see strategy as being the way to beat floyd.

    no way floyd trades with shane like he did zab, zab swept the first 4 rounds and knocked floyd down
    I agree with you totally. I definitely can see Mosley winning on activity. If Mayweather does get behind, like you said he will have to fight a little bit more. I pick Shane to win. But its not going to be an easy fight for either. If Floyd wins he gets props from me.

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    • BIGBOXINGFAN
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      #102
      Originally posted by SekondzOut
      to the dude who thinks that this is what Naazim is banking on.....you underestimating the boxing brain of THE boxing scholar!!

      and to the dude who called Naazim a con-man....just STFU

      as for Floyd foldin' after 5.....I doubt it but its possible....one thing Money is and thats INSECURE.....Roger and Naazim are my 2 fav trainers.....also Roger is boxing's MOST entertaining character in all of boxing imo......I can't wait till May 1st.....not only will the fight be bananas but the between round corner talks should be very educational!!
      He is a con man. That **** won't work. Oh yeah and you should just STFU to

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      • switchsouthpaw
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        #103
        Originally posted by JONESJR22
        I agree with you totally. I definitely can see Mosley winning on activity. If Mayweather does get behind, like you said he will have to fight a little bit more. I pick Shane to win. But its not going to be an easy fight for either. If Floyd wins he gets props from me.
        I'm pulling for Shane but I just can't see a path to victory for him, aside from his advantage in power, he is out-gunned in every discernible category--age,speed and defense. The key to getting inside on Mayweather is the jab and it must be a long jab that disrupts his rhythm however, he then goes into a shell (shoulder roll) and offers little to no real estate.

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        • amayseng
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          #104
          Originally posted by tredh
          Do you believe that PBF can no longer throw combinations? Could it be the PBF doesn't throw many combinations because no fighter has forced him to do it in a while?
          can he? yes. does it take a lot out of him at 33 years old compared to when he was 26? most definitely.

          once you hit 30 your fast twitch muscle fibers start to deteriorate and there is a big difference in your bodys ability to respond and react as efficiently as it once had with quickness, short bursts and combinations. this is why you dont see sprinters at 40 years old, but you do see 75 year olds running 5 miles a day. now im not conflicting myself saying shane can and floyd cant, anatomically, but shane chooses to take more shots and reserve his energy for offense as floyd does for defense.

          it has nothing to do with anyone forcing him to fight in combos. do you think he wanted to fight jmm, odlh and ricky hatton by pot shotting here and there? why wouldnt he want to be phenonemal in a fight instead of boring?
          he conserves energy to win the fight.

          watch how floyd hits the mitts, his mittwork is all rythem and timing, he doesnt even snap his punches, because it takes a lot more energy.

          he instead reserves his energy to be on the move all the time and on defense.

          if you have ever boxed you would understand how much energy it takes to move your feet let alone bend, tuck, duck and roll. it is very exerting.

          floyd also realizes that he is past his prime and that combos open him up and leave him vulnerable due to his age. at 25 he still had the agility to recover following combos as opposed to now.

          this may sound strange for you young guys, but anyone over 30 or 33 understand my points.

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          • switchsouthpaw
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            #105
            Originally posted by amayseng
            can he? yes. does it take a lot out of him at 33 years old compared to when he was 26? most definitely.

            once you hit 30 your fast twitch muscle fibers start to deteriorate and there is a big difference in your bodys ability to respond and react as efficiently as it once had with quickness, short bursts and combinations. this is why you dont see sprinters at 40 years old, but you do see 75 year olds running 5 miles a day. now im not conflicting myself saying shane can and floyd cant, anatomically, but shane chooses to take more shots and reserve his energy for offense as floyd does for defense.

            it has nothing to do with anyone forcing him to fight in combos. do you think he wanted to fight jmm, odlh and ricky hatton by pot shotting here and there? why wouldnt he want to be phenonemal in a fight instead of boring?
            he conserves energy to win the fight.

            watch how floyd hits the mitts, his mittwork is all rythem and timing, he doesnt even snap his punches, because it takes a lot more energy.

            he instead reserves his energy to be on the move all the time and on defense.

            if you have ever boxed you would understand how much energy it takes to move your feet let alone bend, tuck, duck and roll. it is very exerting.

            floyd also realizes that he is past his prime and that combos open him up and leave him vulnerable due to his age. at 25 he still had the agility to recover following combos as opposed to now.

            this may sound strange for you young guys, but anyone over 30 or 33 understand my points.
            Just turned 30...co-sign. I played basketball everyday and could go for hours non-stop, I'm talking 4-5 hours without issue. I remember one day I had a wide open lay-up and my mind said go for it and my legs made me pull up at half court for a jump shot lol.

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            • Sweet Jesus
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              #106
              Mind games...

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              • Rome-By-Ko
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                #107
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                I actually think Zab was/is quicker than Shane. Shane throws
                punches too wide and he loads up on all his big shots, sometimes
                going off balance while Judah had quicker relexes and didn't
                expose himself as much as Mosley does or will do. Anyways, that
                comparison is mute because eventhough Zab may have took 4 rounds
                he got completely dominated the rest of the fight and went into
                a desparate, dirty tactics mode, so comparing Zab and Mosley
                doesn't make sense. In my opinion, Floyd was feeling Zab out
                in the early rounds. Will see how everything plays out May 1st.
                Makes sense because Judah if he had the mental make-up of Mosley could have beat May.I agree that May felt out Zab then went to work but I don't see him open his self up like he did with Hatton and Judah.I see him fighting more like he did against Hoya because Shane is a dangerous puncher and if May gets in trouble it could be good night.This will allow Mosley to fight a game of switching up because May won't be all over him like he was with Hatton and Judah.

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                • jtiger78
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by siggy
                  shane should punch floyd in his weird ass wrists.
                  Just focus on punching his wrists for 5 rounds.
                  c'com son get the fk outta here wit that lol

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                  • jtiger78
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
                    lol you mean out box, who has he beaten the **** out of?
                    he did most of it at 135...

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                    • Sugar Q
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                      #110
                      Wow a great fighter that has never been staggered is all of a sudden gonna get KO'd by a fighter that couldn't KO a lot of much lesser fighters? You guys are hilarious. The only one standing to get KO'd is Shane. Floyd aint into the hype. I don't know who you guys been watching but while yall talking smack Floyd is working his ass of cause he knows what he's up against. Floyd throws idiots off with all the talk but he never comes into a fight off his game and certainly not a huge fight like this. Just because Floyd took a few rounds to figure out the very talented, quick ass, hard punching style of Zab does mean he has to against Shane. Shane isn't hard to figure out if you've been watching his career. Not hard to figure out at all.

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