Manny Pacquiao - STOP trying to CHANGE the RULES - Enough is ENOUGH!

[flexxx145]

When is that fraud going to stop changing the rules?

[PureBoxer]

When is that fraud going to stop changing the rules?

Freddie Roach's 17 day cutoff will not be entertained by the USADA.

[Carpe Diem]

Damn...Red K's for you, sir.

[Smooth Criminal]

When is that fraud going to stop changing the rules?

Manny is scared, he can't accept the standard USADA rules. He needs a cutoff because he's mentally weaker. Either that or he's on drugs.

[Devils Advocate]

Why did Mayweather suddenly demanded a blodd tests/random testing by USADA when the Pac-Mayweather negotiations begun. He didn't do that before.

yeah but if your going to demand 10 mil/lb u should be subjected a drug test should be the least of ur worries seriously come on. Ur taking food out of the mouths of boxers and the money out of their pocket if they don't make weight. Lets be equal!!

[amonb]

Why are you focusing on Pac.. you can get enough Pac??


Floyd is fighting in a couple of weeks..

It's called Pacquaio addiction. Even the haters can't get enough of him!!!!

[Smooth Criminal]

yeah but if your going to demand 10 mil/lb u should be subjected a drug test should be the least of ur worries seriously come on. Ur taking food out of the mouths of boxers and the money out of their pocket if they don't make weight. Lets be equal!!

Agreed. Pacquiao wants to change all the rules in his favor.

[araindon]

Manny Pacquiao has put massive weight penalties on several opponents.

1.) Erik Morales, after struggling to make weight against Raheem in a one-sided loss, fought Pacquiao in a rematch at one weight division lower. Pacquiao put a massive weight penalty in the contract with an absurd fine if he came in a single lb over the limit. Morales killed his body to make weight, couldn't hydrate properly, and Pacquiao came in the ring bigger to add insult to injury.

2.) Manny Pacquiao put a weight penalty on Oscar De La Hoya. If he came in a single lb over the limit, he would be fined an absurd amount.

3.) Pacquiao forced Cotto to fight him at a catch-weight and forced him to put up his belt on line even after Cotto said he didn't want to since he wasn't allowed to weigh-in at his full limit.

The commission has it's own rules to punish anyone who fails to make weight. It is not a boxer's job to set the fine amounts. An example is below:

Manny Pacquiao, in 1999, around the same time Mayweather was dominating opponents such as Hernandez and Manfredy as the official champion, failed to make weight. Pacquiao lost his title on the scales and was penalized by the COMMISSION. Pacquiao was knocked out in the 3rd round by Singsurat despite having an unfair weight advantage.

Pacquiao has requested Mayweather wear 8oz gloves. This is only allowed by the commission if both fighters agree, as 10oz gloves are standard. Mayweather, showing his desire to get the fight signed, agreed to Pacquiao's demand.

Pacquiao then requested Mayweather be fined $10M if he weighs in a single lb over 147. This is the job of the commission, not Pacquiao, but Mayweather once again agreed.

Mayweather's only demand, was OSDT, which would be done to both of them, not just Pacquiao. This is allowable by the commission if both sides agree, just like Pacquiao's glove size demand. After initially agreeing, Pacquiao would change his mind and once again try to change the rules of an official organization, by requesting the USADA to change their standard rules and set cutoff dates which would render the random testing useless.

It's time Pacquiao stop trying to change the rules and let these organizations do their job. His behavior has been a total embarrassment to the sport of Boxing.

I want to see this fight as much as anyone, but this post is completely absurd.

1) Manny Pacquiao was a Super Featherweight at the time so his fight with Erik Morales was always going to be at Super Featherweight or Lightweight. If Erik Morales didn't want the rematch, why didn't he refuse the fight? Not only did he sign for the fight, he signed for it rematch AT THE SAME WEIGHT after he lost. And who said their was a huge fine if he Morales didn't make weight? Manny wasn't even part of Top Rank for this fight so he had almost 0 negotiating power.

2) Let me get this straight. Oscar who is THE don of negotiating and is known worldwide to be the man who calls the shots in all his fights because he is the draw got the unfair part of the deal? Let me remind you, Pacquiao was campaigning at Super Featherweight, moved up and fought David Diaz (who lets be honest, isn't the biggest lightweight, nor is he a household name or a fantastic boxer) for his sole fight at lightweight and Oscar calls him out. Now here is the KEY part, Oscar made Manny come up two weight classes. He was 135, for ONE fight...and then forced to move up to 147 a weight he had never tried. Oscar himself said he was gonna come down to Welterweight and repeatedly in camp made noise how "I feel stronger at welterweight". Lets be real, and lets remind ourselves. Who was the underdog in this fight? Who was the smaller man? And who was the man expected to get pasted? I was on Boxingscene reading posts back then, and almost nobody thought Pacquiao would win. Mayweather fans get off your high horse and remind yourselves what you thought about that fight at the time.

3) Yeah, he put a catchweight on Cotto. So what? He had one fight at welterweight and he just beat Hatton for the 140lb title. Cotto was the bigger man and he wanted a crack at Pacquiao. Given that Pacquiao was the bigger draw, he can make a few stipulations like ask Cotto to shed a few lbs to even it out....if Cotto didn't like it, he didn't have to sign the contract! BUT HE DID, he liked the contract, made the weight, fought like a champion and got the biggest pay day of his career.

When Pacquiao was a young fighter we all know how broke he was. That man was from one of the countries in the world that fights the most poverty and he was part of that poverty. He had no real boxing training no amateur background so he was just really thrown into a ring and had to learn as he went along. He was less than 100lbs for his first fight, thats how broke he was and how old was he? 19? His body was growing so when he couldn't make weight, he starved himself but some things the human body can't do. He was young and broke, he made a mistake....yes he shouldn't have made it, but are you all gonna come down on him for not making weight for a fight none of you even watched or cared about 10 years ago? Especially given he was a broke mother****er back then. How would you guys have handled the situation?!?

As for 10oz gloves? Get your facts right, welterweight gloves are 8oz and everybody should know this. The whole 10oz glove thing wasn't even serious, Mayweather hates fighting in them as much as Pacquiao does.

Yep, did Mayweather make 144 in his fight with Marquez? Nope, he made 146, so he cheated Marquez on the scales. ANd everyone knows he cheated Marquez on the scales which means he has a history of not making the contracted weight, so a penalty was imposed for him to make weight.

With regards to the random blood testing. I see both sides of the argument in a weird way. I personally think Mayweather is only forcing Pacquiao to do the tests to get into his head and if that's what he wants to do that is fine. But if you guys want to accuse Pacquiao of taking PEDs because crackhead Roger said "That mother****ers on A SIDE METH", because Floyd Snr a known former drug dealer in his time is saying so and because Paulie loudmouth Malignaggi, who is jealous that the 2 guys who whooped his behind got KTFO by Pacquiao, is saying so. Be my guest. This thread is bull****. And before you start saying I'm a ******* or whatever. Read my posts from the last few days, I love Mayweather and his boxing skills and have always respected them...just as much as I admire Pacquiao and his boxing skills.

[Russian Crushin]

Agreed. Pacquiao wants to change all the rules in his favor.

Pac only had 1 catchweight and thats it.....and if those fighters didnt like it they shouldve rejected his offer, like manny rejected Floyds OST offer since he didnt like it......simple.


And dont talk about people changing rules, OST testing was a way bigger hurdle then weight penatltes because if you do your job in boxing weight penalties should never apply to you, its a CONSEQUENCE FOR BREAKING A RULE....simple

[Carpe Diem]

Don't forget about the 1 million dollar per weight penalty he requested for Cotto..