Manny Pacquiao - STOP trying to CHANGE the RULES - Enough is ENOUGH!

[mikemurni]

its easy to see it that way as a fan but for the opponent who may never get a chance to make that kind of money again its probably hard to walk away from the money they will be making by fighting at a lesser weight. at the same time though if people are willing to drop weight for the fight then they shouldnt complain afterwards but manny shouldnt complain about floyd changing the rules when he asks for his fair share of changes too, they both think they are bigger than boxing if you ask me and neither of them are.

Then thats the difference between Manny and Floyd compared to the rest of the fighters. They dont have problem walking away from a fight if they feel that the stipulation in the contract is not fair for them, or if they find it insulting.. They can walk away because they felt they can risk not fighting the guy, and still make considerable amount of money against the next opponent in line..

Do you think Marquez can force Mayweather to lose weight when he came in 2 lbs above the agreed limit of 145 as stipulated in their contract. Of course not, Floyd wont have any problem walkin away from the fight.

[led]

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And the rest of the names?

ask horus. why me?

he is a fact crusader.

did i list those names? horus did (ortiz was even under hackleman. ortiz has just entered wild card for his recent fight against griffin). HORUS SHOULD KNOW THIS AS HE SAID GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT.

quoting burner..try again.

[Killa Killa]

I agree man!

[PureBoxer]

its easy to see it that way as a fan but for the opponent who may never get a chance to make that kind of money again its probably hard to walk away from the money they will be making by fighting at a lesser weight. at the same time though if people are willing to drop weight for the fight then they shouldnt complain afterwards but manny shouldnt complain about floyd changing the rules when he asks for his fair share of changes too, they both think they are bigger than boxing if you ask me and neither of them are.

Very well said!

[PureBoxer]

Ownage in its purest form. Most of his dumb fans know nothing about Pac before 2008. They dont know about his weight issues.

It sure seems that way. They talk about Floyd coming in 2lbs bigger than Marquez at the weigh-in, but forget the fact that Pacquiao cheated and lost his title on the scales.

It's even worse than the Marquez fight, because at least Marquez was moving up in weight and didn't force himself to "make weight". The opponent of Pacquiao forced himself to make weight in training camp, something Pacquaio obviously didn't try as hard to do, giving even more of an unfair advantage to himself.

[j.one]

Pac needs a handicap to win

[j.one]

Then thats the difference between Manny and Floyd compared to the rest of the fighters. They dont have problem walking away from a fight if they feel that the stipulation in the contract is not fair for them, or if they find it insulting.. They can walk away because they felt they can risk not fighting the guy, and still make considerable amount of money against the next opponent in line..

Do you think Marquez can force Mayweather to lose weight when he came in 2 lbs above the agreed limit of 145 as stipulated in their contract. Of course not, Floyd wont have any problem walkin away from the fight.

Actually yes, what if Marquez refused to fight??? At first people would have been pissed at him but after awhile it would have fell on Floyd and ****ed the whole comeback up ot atleast delayed it or made him fight someone else last min.

[clmags12]

Manny Pacquiao has put massive weight penalties on several opponents.

1.) Erik Morales, after struggling to make weight against Raheem in a one-sided loss, fought Pacquiao in a rematch at one weight division lower. Pacquiao put a massive weight penalty in the contract with an absurd fine if he came in a single lb over the limit. Morales killed his body to make weight, couldn't hydrate properly, and Pacquiao came in the ring bigger to add insult to injury.

Morales was moving up in weight divisions, the rematch was at the weight that PAC lost at. (130) Of course, he would want revenge at that weight. Again if Morales struggled to make a lower weight, he should not have signed the contract. Morales is(was) game he would not refuse IMHO.

2.) Manny Pacquiao put a weight penalty on Oscar De La Hoya. If he came in a single lb over the limit, he would be fined an absurd amount.

PAC had just beaten Diaz @ 135, DLH was at or above 154. They met in the middle to make the fight happen. Was it PAC's fault that DLH could not properly drain himself. Blame it on DLH's training camp and his age.

3.) Pacquiao forced Cotto to fight him at a catch-weight and forced him to put up his belt on line even after Cotto said he didn't want to since he wasn't allowed to weigh-in at his full limit.

Cotto was PAC's first real WW fight, a catchweight of 145 was implemented.
Cotto agreed since he fights at 146 comfortably and I remember he stated himself 1 pound is nothing. Of course Cotto will put up his belt, he takes all comers. Much respect to Cotto.

-The commission has it's own rules to punish anyone who fails to make weight. It is not a boxer's job to set the fine amounts. An example is below:
-Pacquiao then requested Mayweather be fined $10M if he weighs in a single lb over 147. This is the job of the commission, not Pacquiao, but Mayweather once again agreed.

What was Floyd's punishment from the commision when he failed to make weight against JMM? Floyds disregard to making weight in that fight was kind of a slap in the face to the sport of Boxing. A big penalty will make sure that Floyd who is naturally bigger won't have too much of an advantage. Maintaining the 147 limit evens things up a bit.

Manny Pacquiao, in 1999, around the same time Mayweather was dominating opponents such as Hernandez and Manfredy as the official champion, failed to make weight. Pacquiao lost his title on the scales and was penalized by the COMMISSION. Pacquiao was knocked out in the 3rd round by Singsurat despite having an unfair weight advantage.

PAC was struggling to get down in weight. As he got older, his body was naturally filling out. His weight draining was excessively negative, it was time to move up in weight.

It's time Pacquiao stop trying to change the rules and let these organizations do their job. His behavior has been a total embarrassment to the sport of Boxing.

PAC did not demand non-commission based testing. His embarrassing behavior also got him Fighter of the Decade....

[PureBoxer]

Pac needs a handicap to win

Clearly, this is why he ducked Mayweather and Mosley.

[littlemac]

Morales was moving up in weight divisions, the rematch was at the weight that PAC lost at. (130) Of course, he would want revenge at that weight. Again if Morales struggled to make a lower weight, he should not have signed the contract. Morales is(was) game he would not refuse IMHO.

Why would you imply that the only reason Pac rematched Morales at 130 was to avenge his lost specifically at the weight, and not consider that 130 would favor Pac since Morales was struggling to make weight. By implying this you make Pac sound like some noble fighter, yet Pac is willing and demands a 147 belt at 144. Yeah Pac is real noble.

PAC had just beaten Diaz @ 135, DLH was at or above 154. They met in the middle to make the fight happen. Was it PAC's fault that DLH could not properly drain himself. Blame it on DLH's training camp and his age.


By your admission, Pac beats another drained fighter.



Cotto was PAC's first real WW fight, a catchweight of 145 was implemented.
Cotto agreed since he fights at 146 comfortably and I remember he stated himself 1 pound is nothing. Of course Cotto will put up his belt, he takes all comers. Much respect to Cotto.

145 was implemented by Pac. Cotto was force to put up his belt. Pac won the 147 belt that Cotto and every other fighter had to earn at 147, but Pac gets special treatment and earns it at 144. Yeah thats not changing the rules in favor of Pac. How does stricter testing favor Floyd? Is Floyd the only clean fighter? It shouldn't favor anyone. Its a demand that actually favors both of them so they know their both fighting clean fighters.


What was Floyd's punishment from the commision when he failed to make weight against JMM? Floyds disregard to making weight in that fight was kind of a slap in the face to the sport of Boxing. A big penalty will make sure that Floyd who is naturally bigger won't have too much of an advantage. Maintaining the 147 limit evens things up a bit.


PAC was struggling to get down in weight. As he got older, his body was naturally filling out. His weight draining was excessively negative, it was time to move up in weight.

So in this case since its Pac not making weight, its not a slap to the face to boxing. Its only a slap to the face to boxing if Mayweather does it. BTW when has Floyd not make the 147 limit?

PAC did not demand non-commission based testing. His embarrassing behavior also got him Fighter of the Decade....

Pac only demands titles from different weight classes to be adjusted for him, but is not for cleaner testing. The funny thing is he is not for cleaner testing, while running for some BS office lol. Yeah that would look really good on his political resume, but then again Pac fans are worshipers so he could get away with anything.

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