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  • The Big Dunn
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    #81
    Floyd and PED testing

    I don't think Floyd is scared of Manny nor do I think Manny is on PED's. The problem, IMO is Bob Arum. Arum is afraid of Floyd. When Floyd was with him years ago, he talked about Floyd being as good as Ali and Leonard. Bob hates Floyd (and Oscar) since he bought out his contract with Top Rank. This hatred is causing problems for everyone. Freddy Roach committed Pac to testing. Pac was willing to go along at first. Then Bob starts all this BS. Frankly, it makes Manny look guilty when I do not think he is. You think if Manny was with GBP there would be this BS? Bob is doing everything he can to undermine floyds earning potential. So Floyd runs with the PED thing to undermine Bob's cash cow. Bob is the only one benefitting from this fight not being held. Floyd wants the fight cuz he wants the money and the challenge. Manny wants the fight because he wants the challenge and the money. Bob knows if Floyd wins his cash cow is gone. Bob knows if Manny wins he will be in the same place Floyd was with Bob, big earner with no opponent to generate massive income. Think the public is gonna buy anothe Manny fight against a top rank guy?

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    • o0P4PBOXING0o
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      #82
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      I don't think Floyd is scared of Manny nor do I think Manny is on PED's. The problem, IMO is Bob Arum. Arum is afraid of Floyd. When Floyd was with him years ago, he talked about Floyd being as good as Ali and Leonard. Bob hates Floyd (and Oscar) since he bought out his contract with Top Rank. This hatred is causing problems for everyone. Freddy Roach committed Pac to testing. Pac was willing to go along at first. Then Bob starts all this BS. Frankly, it makes Manny look guilty when I do not think he is. You think if Manny was with GBP there would be this BS? Bob is doing everything he can to undermine floyds earning potential. So Floyd runs with the PED thing to undermine Bob's cash cow. Bob is the only one benefitting from this fight not being held. Floyd wants the fight cuz he wants the money and the challenge. Manny wants the fight because he wants the challenge and the money. Bob knows if Floyd wins his cash cow is gone. Bob knows if Manny wins he will be in the same place Floyd was with Bob, big earner with no opponent to generate massive income. Think the public is gonna buy anothe Manny fight against a top rank guy?

      Very good point. I agree. I'd like to believe that Pacquiao isnt on drugs but we can't be sure until he gets tested. But honestly I don't care about the politics of this fight (I just wanted to point out the facts). I just want them to fight.

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      • Slick_Rick
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        #83
        Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
        First off I took you seriously but now I reckon your simply a Pacquiao nuthugger. Pacquiao is no way a bigger name than Mayweather, Just look at the PPV sales, It's hardly even close. Also you need to look at the money Mayweather has generated, Which is much more than Pacquiao.

        And I never realised why people have said "Floyd had to fight Mosley" and "If Pac had fought Mosley then Mayweather would have nothing to do". Quite ignorant things to say considering Mayweather's marketability and star power. Everyone wants to fight the guy (Apart from Pacquiao it seems), And had the Mosley fight not come about he could easily have fought one of the other champions or waited for the winner of Mosley-Berto, Like I said before everyone wants to fight Floyd because of what he generates.

        At the end of the day Mayweather is never going to win with some people. It's always excuses, If he beats Mosley then Mosley goes from being the "top welterweight" to "a past prime old man". And if he beats Pacquiao people will say Pacquiao was just a small fighter who he cherry picked.

        You just can't win with some people but it is what it is



        I really don't care, I know I am not a "nuthugger" as you put it, but I can be sure your a Floyd lover who is clouded by delusion.

        Manny is regarded as p4p no 1, something at the moment Floyd can not claim. There is no doubt in terms of business dealing Floyd is light years ahead and has generated more PPV sales, but then again Manny has only been a superstar for 2 or 3 years now, comparing that to Floyds Mega fights only the Oscar fight blows Manny away.

        Name wise they are very comparable, ask the random person on the street and they be able to tell you who both are or wont know neither. But as I said Manny has that p4p claim.

        The bit about Mosley, you should really re-read my post, the way things turned out with fighting Mosley and getting him to agree the random testing gives Floyd leverage when he comes back to negotiate with Manny, had that fight never occurred and Manny got to Mosley first Floyd would not have this leverage.

        Oh and lets look at your little avatar, and then lets look at mine....
        Last edited by Slick_Rick; 04-12-2010, 12:02 PM.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #84
          Originally posted by Slick_Rick
          Mayweather did imply that Manny was on drugs during that interview on the radio with Rugga Man.

          Anyway lets look at the Morales fight, Manny's initial blood test somehow got lost, so he had to take a extra test a day before the fight, now correct me if I am wrong but that is a random and unexpected test.

          Manny himself said that he felt the blood testing weakens him, takes time too recovery and a reason he lost the fight to Morales, bull****? maybe, maybe not, but as Mosley said on 24/7 "he understands how it can affect people".
          Now given that Manny is supposed to consume over 7000 calories in order to maintain weight, so regularly taking something out of your body which is not natural, it is plausible to claim he is infact weakened from withdrawing blood and affects his ability to train at the top level. So seeing Manny himself said that, of course Mayweather is going to play around it.

          Also the thing about him being afraid of needles, where did that even come from? its not like getting a blood test is foreign to him, he must have done it 100's of times.
          And as mentioned, alot of of it is rubbish coming from Roach and particularly Arum, and also Manny not being able to express himself properly does not help.

          The fact remains, if Floyd wanted the fight, really, really wanted it, he would have complied to the same rules he did for his last 40 fights. It's really is that simple.
          Originally posted by Slick_Rick
          Before you use the "you people" saying, read my posts first, you twat!

          How has it been debunked? all i ever read from people who say something like that, write a load of rubbish and then end their posts with "fail" or "next".....yup, that is conclusive evidence.
          It's been debunked. Get over it.

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          • Ray*
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            #85
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            I don't think Floyd is scared of Manny nor do I think Manny is on PED's. The problem, IMO is Bob Arum. Arum is afraid of Floyd. When Floyd was with him years ago, he talked about Floyd being as good as Ali and Leonard. Bob hates Floyd (and Oscar) since he bought out his contract with Top Rank. This hatred is causing problems for everyone. Freddy Roach committed Pac to testing. Pac was willing to go along at first. Then Bob starts all this BS. Frankly, it makes Manny look guilty when I do not think he is. You think if Manny was with GBP there would be this BS? Bob is doing everything he can to undermine floyds earning potential. So Floyd runs with the PED thing to undermine Bob's cash cow. Bob is the only one benefitting from this fight not being held. Floyd wants the fight cuz he wants the money and the challenge. Manny wants the fight because he wants the challenge and the money. Bob knows if Floyd wins his cash cow is gone. Bob knows if Manny wins he will be in the same place Floyd was with Bob, big earner with no opponent to generate massive income. Think the public is gonna buy anothe Manny fight against a top rank guy?
            You made alot of good points but i still think Arum wants the fight, Arum is all about money and he doesnt care who he throws under the bus to make that money, He knows he would never make has much money as PAcquiao fighting Mayweather.

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            • PAKYO
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              #86
              Floyd is so jealous of Pac's success and his several citations from award governing bodies and others while floyd's only citation is from the IRS and the adoration from his *****s here.

              That's why the fraud can't stop talking on his idol Pac he even dreams of him constantly which gets elle fuming with envy.

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              • American Dream
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                #87
                I enjoyed the show cant wait until this saturday rolls around..

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                • Slick_Rick
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  It's been debunked. Get over it.
                  Ok...i will, if it keeps your little warped mind happy.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Slick_Rick
                    Ok...i will, if it keeps your little warped mind happy.
                    Well keep repeating the same BS that's been debunked countless times. I know that makes you feel better about the situation.

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                    • Slick_Rick
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Well keep repeating the same BS that's been debunked countless times. I know that makes you feel better about the situation.
                      Yup, and you keep living in delusion, we're both happy.

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