Steroids dont make you the ultimate boxer.

[Spray_resistant]

Performance enhancing drugs. Do only that.

They enhance your performance. They wont make a bum into Floyd Mayweather.

They could give someone who would normally lose a close competitive fight just enough to win over that same boxer I think.

So either everyone gets to use them or no one gets to, I don't care either way as long as everyone gets to play on the level field.

[BrooklynBomber]

it didn't stop vargas from getting KTFO, mosley from a terrible performance against dlh in the rematch, or help toney gain a model physique.

it all depends on what they been using, as there are dozens of diiferent PED's, but asfar as I understand Toney was using stuff that was increasing his red blood cell count, thats the stuff that gives you an endurance and sharpness. I think the same was with mosley. And as for Toney, his physique is exactly what could happen to a long time user if he gets off the stuff. Usually, person's hormonal balance is in shambles and thats what makes you ugly.

PS. overabundance of food also leaves your hormonal profile creeped

[Pullcounter]

It made them do better than what they would have done without them , thats why they are called PEDs and thats why they took them to improve on what they could bring .

didn't make vargas, mosley or toney to better. mosley probably lost the 2nd fight w/ dlh.

[Pullcounter]

It made them do better than what they would have done without them , thats why they are called PEDs and thats why they took them to improve on what they could bring .

it all depends on what they been using, as there are dozens of diiferent PED's, but asfar as I understand Toney was using stuff that was increasing his red blood cell count, thats the stuff that gives you an endurance and sharpness. I think the same was with mosley. And as for Toney, his physique is exactly what could happen to a long time user if he gets off the stuff. Usually, person's hormonal balance is in shambles and thats what makes you ugly.

PS. overabundance of food also leaves your hormonal profile creeped

didn't help toney's endurance and didn't help shane's sharpness

[1 on 1]

I HATE YOUR POSITION. HATE IT. HATE IT. HATE IT.

Performance enhancing drugs (the vast majority) are for TRAINING. So, yes. They do make you a better fighter.

What did we always hear about the steroid users 'Oh, he trained so hard. He was the first one there and the last one to leave". Yeah... the drugs helped him to do that.

If I can take drugs that allow me to train longer, harder and to recover faster than you...does that help me get better?

It's not like I take a syringe and my power becomes 3x, or my jab becomes laser-like. No. But what happens is that I get to train longer, and harder. While you are wiped out, i still have the stamina to keep working.

...and all that extra training makes me better.

That is why sports authorities have 'out of competition testing". MOST of the testing done by WADA is OOC. Because they know that it's during the training periods that people REALLY need the drugs.

If I can train longer and get my lungs to expand and my red blood cells richer, I have the benefit (ON FIGHT NIGHT) of all that training....even though the drugs were out of my system since last week.

Feel me?

Really ? I bet Shane and Fernando disagrees with you.

[And Still]

Steroids are overrated. They make you stronger but they also take away your stamina...

Which is why runners take them. Right?

[And Still]

Really ? I bet Shane and Fernando disagrees with you.

Why would they?

[check hook]

ok... first i dont condone steroids.... im glad that there is random testing for the mosley fight, i hope there is more olympic-style testing in the future...

but people seem to think... steroids or enhancement drugs make you the ultimate boxer.... they just make you big and strong..... they dont help on your jab, or your right hand, or your left hand, hook, or uppercut........ alot of people i know think steroids make you a better boxer.... they dont.... ........


anyone agree....

You are ofcourse right......it's not going to help your skill level....it allows you to train harder and therefore increase stamina and strength.


It's actually a misconception that they make you "big." That's just a by-product of being able to exercise more as the muscles recover quicker.....eventually allowing you to lift heavier and heavier weights which add size.

They aren't magic.....the work still needs to be put in.

[check hook]

it all depends on what they been using, as there are dozens of diiferent PED's, but asfar as I understand Toney was using stuff that was increasing his red blood cell count, thats the stuff that gives you an endurance and sharpness. I think the same was with mosley. And as for Toney, his physique is exactly what could happen to a long time user if he gets off the stuff. Usually, person's hormonal balance is in shambles and thats what makes you ugly.

PS. overabundance of food also leaves your hormonal profile creeped

no Toney was usig Stanazolol. A standard steroid that facilitates lean muscle growth...and more importantly for James "fat loss"

[SOPH~ REP.]

ok... First i dont condone steroids.... Im glad that there is random testing for the mosley fight, i hope there is more olympic-style testing in the future...

But people seem to think... Steroids or enhancement drugs make you the ultimate boxer.... They just make you big and strong..... They dont help on your jab, or your right hand, or your left hand, hook, or uppercut........ Alot of people i know think steroids make you a better boxer.... They dont.... ........


Anyone agree....

nope ,your hooks,uppercuts,straights and even your jab would hit harder