Hopkins doesn't get enough credit for the Pavlik win.

[Mr. Fantastic]

A style made for him, middleweight fighting a light heavy weight, outweighed him at fight night as well, Pavlik isn't as good 160+. Great win???

A great win is if he fights Dawson and beats him at HIS WEIGHT CLASS.

[Ben_London]

blah... blah... blah.

fact is all his career he's been a talentless bum who's only relied on dirty tactics and foul play to win fights. not to mention the bum doesn't have much skills either. that's why he's continuouslys (and deservingly) disrespected and not given credit. the guy sucks ass and he's just a laughing stock.



lol!!

I just exposed you as someone who wanted COTTO to kill PACQUIAO and now you're a PACQUIAO loverboy after changing your nickname from "rob_tc".

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

blah... blah... blah.

fact is all his career he's been a talentless bum who's only relied on dirty tactics and foul play to win fights. not to mention the bum doesn't have much skills either. that's why he's continuouslys (and deservingly) disrespected and not given credit. the guy sucks ass and he's just a laughing stock.



lol!!

Didnt the TS just expose you....


Your just like Perro a.k.a M@nny. Yall jump shipped and ride Pac now..

[Ben_London]

Didnt the TS just expose you....


Your just like Perro a.k.a M@nny. Yall jump shipped and ride Pac now..

We may disagree on Hopkins but we unite on exposing this idiot.

[Khalid X]

You may have a point - can't wait to see what how he deals with Martinez next week. Pavlik will definitely get hit but so will Martinez. One thing thing I'm wondering is, will Pavlik be able to land his right against such an effective lefty?

Honestly bro...If Kermit Cintron can land his right hand on him...Pav most defiantly will. Martinez gets caught with way too much bull**** anyways, circles the wrong way alot and makes too many mistakes. He might be able to win, but I feel a Pavlik KO coming.

[IMDAZED]

I actually think the most important key to the fight is Pavlik's jab. Martinez I think struggles a bit with height of fighters and can't get his style going if he's stopped by a jab. He showed trouble with Cintron because of Cintron's height and jab.

However, can Pavlik's jab get through a southpaw style and can he deal with Martinez's speed and combinations? Also can Martinez keep the pace up. He's gonna not have to gas or else he's ****ed.

Yeah, seriously. I'm picking Pavlik by decision. Think he'll do more down the stretch. But this is a fight where a lot of scenarios could play out.

[ИATAS]

It's not THAT he beat Pavlik it's HOW he beat Pavlik u feel me, Pavlik wasn't at his best weight, he looked slow, frustrated and confused and he showed he wasn't himself that night, the kid bit off more than he could chew and he knew it which is why to this day he hasn't went back up in weight. Hopkins is a veteran, he knew bringing Pavlik up in weight would damage him and he could take advantage of that by fouling and frustrating him, he could take him off his plan and basically leave him lost which is what happened..

Had Hopkins beat Pavlik at a lower catchweight and no fouls then I would forever be amazed at that win but he didn't, he fought a dirty fight as he has been doing and it stunk, you could see Kelly had no more answers because he was pissed, after a while his anger just flared up and at the end he blew up while Bernard laughed as if to say "yea mother****er you took my bait, thanks for making me great again" and it stunk, he could have been 60 man when you win using those dirty tactics you taint it in my eyes, you relied on fouls and dirty **** to get you by and THAT'S why he gets no credit from me..

for the record I thought Pavlik would win, I was in the mindset that he would still be the same but as the fight unfolded and I saw Hopkins lead in with his head and hit low I knew what was about to happen and I was pissed, instead of feeling happy that I'm watching a good Boxing match I'm pissed because this snake is slithering his way into another W

what fight did you watch? Hopkins did not fight dirty against pavlik nor did he foul him. He beat pavlik with lateral movement and beating him to the punch. Pavlik was the one that "tried" to low blow hopkins after his genius of a trainer told him to "touch his nuts."

Hopkins didn't beat pavlik because of size, he did it simply because he's the better fighter and like I said, lateral movement and beating kelly to the punch. Further, hopkins is a master at taking away the jab. I repeat, he takes away the jab. What is kelly's main arsenal? The jab following by his right, the basic 1-2 combo. You take that away from Kelly and he has NOTHING left. It's that simple. Any fighter at any weight class that can take kelly's jab away will destroy him just like hopkins.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Yeah for what its worth I have Pavlik knocking Martinez out.

[warp1432]

Yeah, seriously. I'm picking Pavlik by decision. Think he'll do more down the stretch. But this is a fight where a lot of scenarios could play out.

Agreed. I think Froch Kessler the next week though has even more possibilities. Crazy couple of weeks in boxing coming up. I'm pumped.

[TredKiller]

people love to hate on good achevments.

just the way it is.