NSB. Give Me Your Thoughts On This Top 100 ATG List?

[GoogleMe]

To be honest, no one here know's half the boxers that ever lived, watched them box or anything about their accomplishments. It's gonna be ass hard to make lists you agree of. But they could be better, with more people agree, but will that make it more right?

But yes, these old fighters gets way too much credit. But many of them fought way more rounds, had smaller gloves and so on, so it's hard to compare to the fighters today.

[SusieQ.]

I can't seem to find Lewis on the list??? And if he ain't, it's a **** list. Though I like rating Marciano high, and Holyfield fought EVERYONE give him some credit.

no L.Lewis wont be there. i heard sugar actually say he puts lennox just outside the top 100(when he was talkin to brian kenny) which is laughable

[D-MiZe]

Hopkins is at 91, WTF.

[Tamis!]

Done by Bert Sugar in 2005.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Wille Pep
4. Joe Louis
5. Harry Greb
6. Benny Leonard
7. Muhammad Ali
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jack Johnson
11. Mickey Walker
12. Tony Canzoneri
13. Gene Tunney
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Joe Gans
16. Sam Langford
17. Julio Cesar Chavez
18. Jimmy Wilde
19. Stanley Ketchel
20 Barney Ross
21, Jimmy McLarnin
22. Archie Moore
23. Marcel Cerdan
24. Ezzard Charles
25. Sugar Ray Leonard
26. Joe Walcott (The original)
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Eder Jofre
29. Emile Griffith
30. Terry McGovern
31. George Foreman
32. Johnny Dundee
33. Jose Napoles
34. Pascual Perez
35. Billy Conn
36. Ruben Olivares
37. Joe Frazier
38. Tommy Loughran
39. Sandy Saddler
40. Kid Chocolate
41. Abe Attell
42. Evander Holyfield
43. George Dixon
44. Maxie Rosenbloom
45. Larry Holmes
46. Ted "Kid" Lewis
47. Marvin Hagler
48. Pernell Whitaker
49. Carlos Zarate
50. Thomas Hearns
51. Battling Nelson
52. Beau Jack
53. Ricardo ;Lopez
54. John L. Sullivan
55. Carlos Monzon
56. Alexis Arguello
57. Carmen Basillio
58. Pete Herman
59. Charley Burley
60. Ike Williams
61. Kid Gavilan
62. Jack Britton
63. **** Tiger
64. Pancho Villa
65. Panama Al Brown
66. Bob Fitszimmons
67. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
68. Tiger Flowers
69. James J.Corbett
70. Tony Zale
71. Tommy Ryan
72. Georges Carpentier
73, Sonny Liston
74. "Kid" McCoy
75. Bob Foster
76. Freddie Welsh
77. Joe Jeanette
78. Jim Driscoll
79. Jersey Joe Walcott
80. Peter Jackson
81. Ad Wolgast
82. Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
83. Manuel Ortiz
84. James J. Jeffries
85. Salvador Sanchez
86. Jimmy Barry
87. Carlos Ortiz
88. Roy Jones Jr.
89. Wilfredo Gomez
90. Aaron Pryor
91. Bernard Hopkins
92. Mike Gibbons
93. Jack Delaney
94. Johnny Kilbane
95. Willie Ritchie
96. Wilfredo Benitez
97. Packey McFarland
98. Rocky Graziano
99. Lew Jenkins
100. Mike Tyson

Yebah!

But no Flash Elorde????

[General Zod]

Bernard Hopkins is 91, what ATG's has he beaten?

[THE REED]

Bernard Hopkins is 91, what ATG's has he beaten?

Roy Jones....

[NChristo]

One thing everyone should already know about Bert is that he knows EVERYTHING about the numbers and stats of boxers but always falls short when it comes to lists :/.

[craigus1990]

what is Bert Sugar's criteria for measuring greatness????

he obviously disregards actual footage of a fighter in an actual fight because if i'm certain there ain't **** on Greb and many others on this list

thats what i hate, the only footage of greb is him sparring and he looks ****, yh in his day he was better than most of the others but back then they were all **** compared to todays fighters, the technique is appauling, he would get schooled by any fighter today

[Ravishing]

what is Bert Sugar's criteria for measuring greatness????

he obviously disregards actual footage of a fighter in an actual fight because if i'm certain there ain't **** on Greb and many others on this list

Why, because it's not on youtube? How did Boxing ever survive the last 100 yrs without youtube or the internet

[General Zod]

Roy Jones....

A great win