who is more over-rated? Bradley or Maidanna?

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  • ma51f
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    #51
    Originally posted by #1Assassin
    but being a big draw and a good fighter isnt always connected to one another. yet u claim bradley is the one overrated.

    money wise u are correct, but it hurts their legacy and their standing in the sport to take easy fights. khan is making all the right buisness moves, bradley is making all the right moves inside the ring. so who is overrated between the two when it comes down to ability? the man who proves himself in the ring or the one whos riding the high of a olympic medal and taking easy fights to avoid getting flattened (again). which he most certainly will once he steps up to the big boys in the division, the ones who fought their way to the top not posed their way to the top.
    i claim Bradley is over-rated simpyl because there are threads out there saying Mayweather, Pacman are ducking them. Bradley is potentially teh greatest fighter ever etc. i dont doubt he's a top boxer, just not as good as people like to make out.

    yes it hurts their legacy but boxings evolved and is a business. at the end of the day theres only one thing that matters and that money. With people like Khan, early on in their career it makes no sence fighting a mayweather, pacman. long terms it makes more sence to fight guys at his level while he develops and learns his trade. and to be honest, fighting Paulie is actually a pretty gutsy move for someone who has a lot to lose like Khan. Bradley/Alexander fights will come, just not yet

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    • S.G.
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      #52
      Originally posted by ma51f
      only because its out of necessity...

      they bring no money so they HAVE to take the big fights to make ends meet

      Khan has more to lose as he can make millions fighting anyone. Therefore as every other boxer who was in a similar position they generally take less riskier fights EARLY on in their career.

      Hatton is a prime example. was a huge draw, made millions fighting no-one and then finally towards teh end of his career too kthe big fights. boxing and business
      Khan has not earned the right to cherry pick and let his opponents come to him. Not nearly.

      Prospects should be out there paying their dues and building a foundation for what you would hope will eventually become a great career.

      Khan tasted fame and fortune too early and it has ruined his career up until this point and his credibility as a boxer. Now it's obviously not his fault that the deck was stacked in his favour from the start, but he is to blame for getting too comfortable doing the bare minimum and just reaping the rewards of a marketable image.

      Khan won't take good fights because he doesn't need them? Fine. But while he's wasting precious youth on soft opponents real fighters like Bradley and Alexander will be building careers that will be remembered for the right reasons.

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        #53
        Originally posted by S.G.
        Khan has not earned the right to cherry pick and let his opponents come to him. Not nearly.

        Prospects should be out there paying their dues and building a foundation for what you would hope will eventually become a great career.

        Khan tasted fame and fortune too early and it has ruined his career up until this point and his credibility as a boxer. Now it's obviously not his fault that the deck was stacked in his favour from the start, but he is to blame for getting too comfortable doing the bare minimum and just reaping the rewards of a marketable image.

        Khan won't take good fights because he doesn't need them? Fine. But while he's wasting precious youth on soft opponents real fighters like Bradley and Alexander will be building careers that will be remembered for the right reasons.
        the fact that Khan has made tens of millions fighting mostley unknowns in his career so far gives him teh right to pick who he wants. the fact that every boxer at 140lbs wants to fight him gives him all the power.

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          #54
          Originally posted by ma51f
          the fact that Khan has made tens of millions fighting mostley unknowns in his career so far gives him teh right to pick who he wants. the fact that every boxer at 140lbs wants to fight him gives him all the power.
          And what is he doing with that power and abundance of willing opponents? Paying Maidana to leave him alone and fighting Paulie Malignaggi.

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            #55
            Originally posted by S.G.
            And what is he doing with that power and abundance of willing opponents? Paying Maidana to leave him alone and fighting Paulie Malignaggi.
            paying Maidanna? stop making things up

            GBP may have asked Maidanna to take the fight im 3 matches time, whats wrong with that? anyway Maidanna should be critised for not enforcing his mandatory.

            Paulie is a top 140lbs. it will be a great fight

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              #56
              Neither is overrated, except by the fans of Amir Khan. Both Bradley and Maidana are good, solid fighters and both would easily beat Khan. Neither one is a top 10 P4Pounder, but they are good up-and-coming fighters. However, the fact that Bob Arum is looking at putting Pacquaio in the ring with a washed-up has been in Margarito instead of one of these two tells me that both are quality opponents.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ma51f
                ok i think i am going to have to educate you.

                there are two types of boxers, those who are draws and nobodies.

                draws like Hatton, Khan can fight anyone they like and make millions.

                then there are nobodies like Bradley,Froch,Alexander who bring no money to the table. Due to this, they will try and fight everyone and anyone. then you'll get these nuthuggers who would call them warriors for fighting anyone when in fact its out necessity.

                every boxer wants big challenges, its just those who are draws a have more to lose and will take less risky fights earlier in their career.

                so there you have it, Khan isnt ducking no-one. just that because he is a superstar everyone wants to fight him simply because of the money. and Froch is just like every other boxer who is just looking for a payday against draws
                You hit it in the head, the most popular boxer is not the best boxer. If you get paid so much fighting B level why risk fighting A fighters. You are your own worst enemy. Instead of saying that he should take the challenges and prove to the world he is the best you endorse him taking low risk so he can attain a huge pay day down the line.

                Great fighters get there buy winning un-winnable fights. As you see you can't even educate yourself, you stepped on you own tounge
                Last edited by STREET CLEANER; 04-08-2010, 02:40 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ma51f
                  paying Maidanna? stop making things up

                  GBP may have asked Maidanna to take the fight im 3 matches time, whats wrong with that? anyway Maidanna should be critised for not enforcing his mandatory.

                  Paulie is a top 140lbs. it will be a great fight
                  Maidana got incentives not to go after the mandatory status with other high paying fights. If you find the details of Khan's contract he won't be facing Maidana atleast for 3 fights. Blame GBP for that one.

                  BTW not a Khan hater cause I'll be at the Garden to see what he is all about cause I'm a boxing fan. Expecting to see a good fight

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by S.G.
                    And what is he doing with that power and abundance of willing opponents? Paying Maidana to leave him alone and fighting Paulie Malignaggi.

                    One their is way more money in fighting Paulie instead of marcos and two Paulie may hit like a fruit but he can still box rings around anyone which would be just as detrimental to Khan if he lost to him instead of Maidana. If Maidana beats Bradley then all the future stars are gonna have to fight him anyways and if he loses to Bradley then nobody will care if he's avoided. So just chill out all will get sorted out soon enough.


                    Seriously I wish Boxing fans would be patient rather than being so quick to call someone a ducker.

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                      #60
                      Amir Khan is ******ly overrated

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