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  • fcastro1
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    #141
    Originally posted by Nike Phats
    How has Pac improved? Since that fight he hasn't dared to step in the ring with tactical, live, and cerebral counter puncher. How can you say he's improved considering the above?
    anyone that says pac has not improved really is blinded by hate. are you telling me the featherweight version of pac could have beaten hatton,cotto,oscar and clottey in the same fashion.

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      #142
      Originally posted by fcastro1
      and pacquiao was not in his prime or his best physically against marquez.
      In 2008 Pac wasnt in his prime?

      The hell?

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        #143
        Originally posted by Nike Phats
        Mayweather and Pac have comparable resumes and include a few of the same fighters. Only difference is, other than JMM, Pac fought them at later stages in their career.
        both pac and may's resumes in the lower weights is somewhat comparable when floyd would fight tougher opposition.. but the upper weight classes in not even close.. later stage of their careers?

        oscar picked on pac (people called it a circus fight with pac getting seriously hurt)

        Hatton was the MAN at 140.. (1 defeat does not make you past it.. past great fighters like duran/hagler/ leonard/ etc.. all came back stronger after being defeated)

        Cotto was supposed to destroy manny.. (cotto said himself that weight had no effect and was (145) 1 pound lighter (146) than his fight prior to clottey)

        why did floyd fight jmm and make him jump 2 weight classes?


        cut the hate

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          #144
          Originally posted by Nike Phats
          Lol Pac's gotten beat by JMM twice, and now all of a sudden he's supposed to be able to handle Duran and Sweat Pea at LW? Not a chance.
          That is exactly what I say

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            #145
            Originally posted by fcastro1
            and pacquiao was not in his prime or his best physically against marquez.
            So Pac only has a two year prime? Because JMM has fought Pac twice in his career... the second time, Pac was undoubtedly in his prime.

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              #146
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              In 2008 Pac wasnt in his prime?

              The hell?
              you do not see the current manny beating the manny from 08? your fav fighter floyd seems to think manny is now 'extraordinary'...

              cut the hate

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                #147
                Originally posted by fcastro1
                anyone that says pac has not improved really is blinded by hate. are you telling me the featherweight version of pac could have beaten hatton,cotto,oscar and clottey in the same fashion.
                How has Pac improved? Since that fight he hasn't dared to step in the ring with tactical, live, and cerebral counter puncher. How can you say he's improved considering the above?
                Please provide examples on how Pacs improved since 08?

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                  Don't come with the weight drain crap cause they made Morales come down to 130.
                  everyone uses that as an excuse against pac nowadays so why cant i use it. double standards bro. pac obviousley was weight drained because he looks fitter, healthier and performing better than he was at 130.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by fcastro1
                    anyone that says pac has not improved really is blinded by hate. are you telling me the featherweight version of pac could have beaten hatton,cotto,oscar and clottey in the same fashion.
                    And you are right in that sense, his overall balance improve. He doesn't fall foward with combo which he did at times. It allows him to be ready at all times

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by fcastro1
                      anyone that says pac has not improved really is blinded by hate. are you telling me the featherweight version of pac could have beaten hatton,cotto,oscar and clottey in the same fashion.
                      TRUTH!. even mayweather says pac is now 'extraordinary'.. lol

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