Freddie Roach thinks Manny would beat Whitaker and Duran at 135..

[| THE KING |]

This dude arguably lost both fights to JMM.

Cut the crap people.

'ARGUABLY' lost.. officially it was 1. draw - 2. W.. for manny.

and those fights were in the past. pac improved. cut the hate

[Hannibal Barca]

LOL. Ok sir. List mayweathers resume. Be real! I'm a mayweather fan also, and think he can beat manny 50/50.. BUT downplaying pac's achievements is ridiculous. both are skilled but cut the hate

Mayweather and Pac have comparable resumes and include a few of the same fighters. Only difference is, other than JMM, Pac fought them at later stages in their career.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

'ARGUABLY' lost.. officially it was 1. draw - 2. W.. for manny.

and those fights were in the past. pac improved. cut the hate

The last JMM fight was in 2008. The hell you talking about?

Pac didnt improve. His opposition got weaker.

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so what ali had tough fights with norton and robinson had tough fights with basilio does that make them any less greater. their are fighters that are always going to be difficult for fighters.

pac has improved since then and he was clearly weight drained at that weight.

Ali was surely not in his prime when he fought Norton...

[Hannibal Barca]

'ARGUABLY' lost.. officially it was 1. draw - 2. W.. for manny.

and those fights were in the past. pac improved. cut the hate

How has Pac improved? Since that fight he hasn't dared to step in the ring with tactical, live, and cerebral counter puncher. How can you say he's improved considering the above?

[| THE KING |]

What have his last four or five fights proven other than he cherry picks flat footed, drained, and shot fighters tailor made for his style?

SOme of you my buy what the media feeds, I don't. Anybody honest and objective enough to admit it knows what's going on.

ok who should he fight?

oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey..

1-2 yrs ago, you say pacman will destroy the four fighters, you get laughed at. now they are drained/flat footed/ tailor made..

who do you want pac to fight? i want him to fight mayweather and see that as a 50/50 fight.. cut the hate.

[STREET CLEANER]

hoya beat whitaker at his early 30's....that barely a past prime whitaker to me.......see, thats how they doplay excusees around here, 33 is old when it comes to certain fighters bbut 38 is not.....both of hoya wins vs whitaker and chavez were legit,.....no excuses bro.....

Did you even see the DLH/Whitaker fight?

[fcastro1]

Ali was surely not in his prime when he fought Norton...

and pacquiao was not in his prime or his best physically against marquez.

[Hannibal Barca]

ok who should he fight?

oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey..

1-2 yrs ago, you say pacman will destroy the four fighters, you get laughed at. now they are drained/flat footed/ tailor made..

who do you want pac to fight? i want him to fight mayweather and see that as a 50/50 fight.. cut the hate.

Mayweather or he should have pursued a third fight with JMM since most of the boxing world, professionals and otherwise, thought he lost the second fight.

By Roach's own admission DLH was a dead man walking whom no longer desired to fight when he was matched up against Manny. He was literally drained and dehydrated, and this came straight from the mouth of Pacs camp.

Cotto? Again by team Pacs admission, Cotto was damaged goods who'd had his career ruined by Margarito. Did that stop them from fighting and hyping the fight? Nope.

Hatton? Again, by Team Pacs own admission, he'd been ruined by Mayweather, and was coming off a fight where he'd been brutalized by Lazcano. They still fought him and the boxing world acted as if it were a huge fight.

Clottey? Don't get me started. The man was a walking punching bag. The sad part is, based upon the shots he was landing when he decided to actually open up and throw punches, he could have possibly pulled the upset.

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so what ali had tough fights with norton and robinson had tough fights with basilio does that make them any less greater. their are fighters that are always going to be difficult for fighters.

pac has improved since then and he was clearly weight drained at that weight.

Don't come with the weight drain crap cause they made Morales come down to 130.