How Did Bernard Lose This?

[johncods]

haters won't admit it but calzaghe is a greater fighter than most folks give him credit for. I mean I'd favor him over any of the super six right now. he's awkward, clever, fast, throws tons of punches, superb stamina, etc. Just one of those guys who finds a way to win.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Stop brining up Pavlik.

Have yall forgotten that he fought Pavlik at 170 Pounds? 10 Pounds heavier then his natural weight class.

[djtmal]

cept put him down, outbox him, land all the clean punches and barely get hit in return while calzaghe threw a bunch of crappy windmill punches that didn't land and hoped it fooled the judges. who did nothing again?

hey thats the way YOU see it....in reality he only landed 1 punch per round, while calzaghe threw far more and landed waaaay more....the judges saw it that way...even unbiased nard fans saw it the same way...just give calzaghe the credit he deserves...hopkins lost

[Spray_resistant]

Stop brining up Pavlik.

Have yall forgotten that he fought Pavlik at 170 Pounds? 10 Pounds heavier then his natural weight class.

My thing with that fight is not that Pavlik is great or that Bernard won, its that he threw so many punches and looked very fast and fluid in that fight.......so much for the old man excuse to discredit Joe.

[daggum]

232 / 707... 33% accuracy... not bad really...

ok well we both know those numbers are a complete joke so don't even try that since i've gone back and counted how many actual punches he landed and it's not even close. if you want to keep believing falsehoods and ignoring reality be my guest.

[intoccabile]

So this is why he threw almost a record high amount of punches in over 5 years? because Pavlik is so bad, had nothing to do with Joe having a unique frustrating style and him being a very good fighter himself?

What then if Pavlik goes on to due great things?

You can't take credit away from fighters and dismiss wins due to "style mismatches" that is an excuse.

If nothing shady happens the better man just won that night

Those nights, Joe> B-hop Hop> Pavlik and SSM > Marg

and pac hit a milestone against clottey.. prove my point why don't you.
Pavlik was tailor made man.. bhop was able to do more than usual because his opponent did NOTHING.

I'm not saying calzaghe is bad, at all. I'm just saying I'm not impressed with that W mainly because it wasn't clear cut. It was the judges giving rounds saying " well.. at least he TRIED to make contact " lol.

[daggum]

i see you're from philly, so you count fouls as legal punches...

you count missed punches as landed punches? oh compubox said he landed it must be true?

[daggum]

hey thats the way YOU see it....in reality he only landed 1 punch per round, while calzaghe threw far more and landed waaaay more....the judges saw it that way...even unbiased nard fans saw it the same way...just give calzaghe the credit he deserves...hopkins lost

no that's the way it was. he didn't he just didn't. go back and watch it in slow mo if you want to find out the truth but you don't appear to want to know the truth. its a fact. you can keep saying compbox says so and so but you are just flat out wrong.

[djtmal]

you count missed punches as landed punches? oh compubox said he landed it must be true?

look man i saw the fight...in the postfight interview your boy even admitted that calzaghe threw far more punches, so his 15 pitty pit lands are going to overwhelm his one accurate shot over the course of 12 rounds...because it isn't a ko shot...you're so in awe of his overdefensive style that it blinds you from the truth...and the truth is he doesn't throw any punches because he doesn't want to get hit solid on the chin...

you hopkins lovers want to give nard decisions because he lands 1 accurate shot per round, doesn't throw nothing for the first six or 7 rounds, and does too little too late in the championship rounds...

[daggum]

and pac hit a milestone against clottey.. prove my point why don't you.
Pavlik was tailor made man.. bhop was able to do more than usual because his opponent did NOTHING.

I'm not saying calzaghe is bad, at all. I'm just saying I'm not impressed with that W mainly because it wasn't clear cut. It was the judges giving rounds saying " well.. at least he TRIED to make contact " lol.

yep thats right. they rewarded inaccuracy. i don't know how anyone can say calzaghe won if they used the actual rules of judging.

clean punching-all bernard calzaghe only landed a couple clean punches in the fight while hopkins outlanded him in real punches remember hitting air, shoulders, back, behind the head do not count as scoring blows. watch in slo mo whenever calzaghe throws for evidence of his impotence.

defense-all bernard he slipped nearly everything while calzaghe was caught flush time and time again

effective agression-bernard again. he picked his spots well and didn't waste any punches. effective when he was agressive. not agressive all the time but completely ineffective. calzaghe's agression was ineffective as he wasn't able to land anything or get hopkins out of his gameplan.

ring generalship-toss up i guess. you could say bernard countered then moved or you could say calzaghe made him back up and be defensive.

so calzaghe won 1 of the scoring criteria at best and he lost the most important criteria clean punching by a landslide. how did he win? yea hopkins fought a stinky fight but he won the boxing match. they punished his crappy style and rewarded a guy for trying but utterly failing. in boxing all you have to do is be better than your opponent not be crowd pleasing but yea he fought like dirrell sr. so they robbed him.