How Did Bernard Lose This?

**B.U.R.N.E.R** · 04-07-2010, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by craigus1990

Bernard Hopkins the so called "legend", Freddy Roach one of the most accomplished trainers in the world and ****m Richardson one of the most respected trainers in the world.... How on earth did this supposed team of the best lose to a welsh bloke and his dad?

I know this is really old news but i thought id just remind everyone just what calzaghe was up against in 3 masterminds of the ring, quite impressive win really.

Hopkins was 43. If Calz won . Doesnt mean anything.

**Left Banned Tua** · 04-07-2010, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by craigus1990

Bernard Hopkins the so called "legend", Freddy Roach one of the most accomplished trainers in the world and ****m Richardson one of the most respected trainers in the world.... How on earth did this supposed team of the best lose to a welsh bloke and his dad?

I know this is really old news but i thought id just remind everyone just what calzaghe was up against in 3 masterminds of the ring, quite impressive win really.

maybe because he was 65 years old?

**Uturn** · 04-07-2010, 08:33 PM

Hang on old man Hopkins whooped Pavliks ass and was still a legit fighter. Zag was trained by his nobody dad and was still clowning about with B.hop and Jones.

**craigus1990** · 04-07-2010, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Casual

Hang on old man Hopkins whooped Pavliks ass and was still a legit fighter. Zag was trained by his nobody dad and was still clowning about with B.hop and Jones.

I know i dont think people realize just what Enzo and Joe accomplished. They knew nothing about boxing when they started and Joe ended up with a fantastic amateur career followed by a glistening pro career... not bad when you consider the 3 masterminds against him in the hopkins fight. Also i dont care about people saying he was old, tell tht to pavlik and Joe wasnt a young man with amateur and pro records combined the man had had like 150 fights haha and lost like 15 of them... not bad at all

**Uturn** · 04-07-2010, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by craigus1990

I know i dont think people realize just what Enzo and Joe accomplished. They knew nothing about boxing when they started and Joe ended up with a fantastic amateur career followed by a glistening pro career... not bad when you consider the 3 masterminds against him in the hopkins fight. Also i dont care about people saying he was old, tell tht to pavlik and Joe wasnt a young man with amateur and pro records combined the man had had like 150 fights haha and lost like 15 of them... not bad at all

He's defiantly had a great career no matter what anybody tells you mate. Zag was pretty danm skilled for a man with no real boxing background of note.. They both deserve more props then they get round here and Zag is a legit fighter with a great record. Not that im a massive fan of Zag myself but i reconize what he has achieved without the likes of the greatest trainers in the world.

**craigus1990** · 04-07-2010, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Casual

He's defiantly had a great career no matter what anybody tells you mate. Zag was pretty danm skilled for a man with no real boxing background of note.. They both deserve more props then they get round here and Zag is a legit fighter with a great record. Not that im a massive fan of Zag myself but i reconize what he has achieved without the likes of the greatest trainers in the world.

Yeh good stuff man.. glad to see an unbias opinion once in a while.. I mean all you gotta say really to say how far he came is, Would Pacman be as good as he is today without his top notch team and Freddy Roach?

**intoccabile** · 04-07-2010, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Casual

Hang on old man Hopkins whooped Pavliks ass and was still a legit fighter. Zag was trained by his nobody dad and was still clowning about with B.hop and Jones.

beating pavlik means what exactly?
.....

pavlik aint exactly a world beater worth bragging about beating.
he would have knocked him out had he been in his prime.

Face it, bhop was still old.

**ИATAS** · 04-07-2010, 08:48 PM

he was 43 years old and couldn't throw enough punches in the final rounds to impress the judges.

pretty much everyone agrees if he would have let his hands go more he would have won.

real simple.

**djtmal** · 04-07-2010, 08:50 PM

much respect to calzaghe...hopkins nuthuggers have a hard time accepting the fact that nard lost str8 up...he beat smaller fighters pavlik and winky in the same time frame...calzaghe and the running excuse is he's too old to throw punches...bulls**t...

cue in nasa000 who loves to hang on dese nuts...

How Did Bernard Lose This?