Im confused about the WEIGHT of Pacquiao.

[Khalid X]

Burner you already know the deal, so I don't understand why you even ask these question. Actually I do know why, and it's because you know that by acknowledging these facts and that pac is really a natural LW.....then you acknowledge what he is doing is even that much greater. Just give the man his props and keep it moving.

[jrosales13]

Even during that time no one was saying"Oh my god look at little floyd go". It was what it was. In the Hatton fight he was a tank. He grew into WW quick as hell.

People was though Burner. You forgetting how people were hyping up Baldomir size and how he would seriously outweight Floyd by like 20lbs. However Floyd was the smaller guy.

People also said the same stuff with Oscar. Hyping how Oscar was the bigger guy and Floyd was the smaller guy...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I agree,

I think he would struggle to make 135. I know Arum and Ariza both have come out and say that he can still make 135 and that Arum is willing to make a fight happen at 135 if the money is right. But, I think he would struggle to get there.

But, I think he can still easily make 140. I think 140 is Pac weight-class. I think that is the weight-class he belongs in. I just think he is good enough to compete and beat elite WWs. So that is why there should be no excuses if he losses to a WW. Because, he has proven even though for a JWW he has proven he can hang with WWs.

Yeah I agree hes proven he can fight WW's he just beat one that looked like a super middleweight. But at this rate it the cash is at 147 and the longer he stays there that weight will stick to him.

[lfc19titles]

also this bull**** everyone does about pac being a sensation at beating bigger guys (or heavier). its what roach wants, speed kills. You know all of the top boxers at their peak had speed, no boxer could do it without it.

there are a few anomolies(sp?) who had a good good height. When pac was fighting at 130 and 135 he was really a hugely drained light welter. I think he is now a proper welter. it doesnt matter if he comes in the ring at like 150 which is really close to 147.

just look at ali, he always used to be a few pounds smaller which was what he wanted because it gave him that edge over speed

[jrosales13]

Yeah thats where Im at. They stuffing his ass too with food and protein shakes that weight will start to stick to him and he will risk being weak when he moves down. This dude is a WW in every sense of the word.

Dude is a JWW in every sense of the word who is just good enough to compete and beat elite WWs.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

People was though Burner. You forgetting how people were hyping up Baldomir size and how he would seriously outweight Floyd by like 20lbs. However Floyd was the smaller guy.

People also said the same stuff with Oscar. Hyping how Oscar was the bigger guy and Floyd was the smaller guy...

When you watch those fights you can see that Baldi and Oscar are heavier. But then when you look at Floyd he was pretty big himself. He looked pretty healthy at that weight. He looked like he belonged there and thats how I feel about the Pacman.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Burner you already know the deal, so I don't understand why you even ask these question. Actually I do know why, and it's because you know that by acknowledging these facts and that pac is really a natural LW.....then you acknowledge what he is doing is even that much greater. Just give the man his props and keep it moving.

This isnt a hate thread. I never miss a Pac fight. Dont get it twisted..lol. I just dont view him as a 135 Pounder anymore. Hes showed alot of strength at his new weight class.

[lfc19titles]

Even during that time no one was saying"Oh my god look at little floyd go". It was what it was. In the Hatton fight he was a tank. He grew into WW quick as hell.

its why i think pac will win. because pac is smaller he would be that little bit quicker with his movement as he has less mass to move. especially when you got two very very even fighters. I think floyd gaining that extra weight was a mistake, he should have kept his weight lower to sacrifice power for speed

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

also this bull**** everyone does about pac being a sensation at beating bigger guys (or heavier). its what roach wants, speed kills. You know all of the top boxers at their peak had speed, no boxer could do it without it.

there are a few anomolies(sp?) who had a good good height. When pac was fighting at 130 and 135 he was really a hugely drained light welter. I think he is now a proper welter. it doesnt matter if he comes in the ring at like 150 which is really close to 147.

just look at ali, he always used to be a few pounds smaller which was what he wanted because it gave him that edge over speed

You make a good point. Which is something I thought of before is the draining thing. If hes draining then technically he was a 140 back then fighting in the wrong weight class.

[jrosales13]

Yeah I agree hes proven he can fight WW's he just beat one that looked like a super middleweight. But at this rate it the cash is at 147 and the longer he stays there that weight will stick to him.

Of course he will grow into the division. But, that doesn't change that right now. As of now he can still make 140 easily. So in that sense he is beating guys who are "bigger"

Just look at the top 10 WWs. Tell who on a consistent bases right weigh-ins the less? Who on a consistent basis comes in on fight night weigh-in the less? Who is the shortest? Who has the shortest reach? This to me is 4 main factors that show he is a JWW.

If you match that up to all the top 10 WWs then you would see that Pac is the smaller guy. Now if you match this up with the top 10 JWWs and you would see he is against guys more his size.