Im confused about the WEIGHT of Pacquiao.

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  • jrosales13
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dan...
    This would be fine if you maintained the same standard for all fighters, but you don't.

    I'm sure if it was Floyd who was weighing in at less than his opponents you would be proclaiming him as some monumental giant-killer.
    And, thing is Floyd from late 2005-late 2007. Could of still easily make 140. Floyd was a JWW beating up on WWs and JMW. He was a small dude but people want to have double standard I guess. Floyd would come in on fight night at 146-150. He was a smaller dude beating up on bigger guys.

    It is just now that Floyd has grown to the WW weight-class.

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      #52
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      See that I dont believe either. That duide is solid as a rock pure muscle. You strip that off and hes in trouble if he moves down. After awhile that weight sticks to you. Ask Floyd.
      142 the day of the weigh in.

      lets say he gets off that high calorie diet. That alone would help him get to 135. Not just that but since so much of your body is made up of water, by lowering the percentage of water weight, you can easily drop 5-7 lbs.

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      • GRANPA MOSLEY
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        #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        140 yes but 135 is a stretch.


        I agree with you.

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          #54
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Exactly. I might've believed him a couple fights ago but not now. Can't keep "eating" yourself up then all of a sudden cutting the weight. At some point the notion of going down is done-zo.
          Yeah thats where Im at. They stuffing his ass too with food and protein shakes that weight will start to stick to him and he will risk being weak when he moves down. This dude is a WW in every sense of the word.

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            #55
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            I see posters saying he used to come in at WW (141-147) back when he was at the lower weights. They use that to make the point that he hasnt really gained any weight at all. Which is fine. Ok Cool.

            But I also see posters saying Pac is just a little itty bitty guy beating bigger fighters. I read that hes a light weight on here and what hes doing is so amazing.

            But if you guys say Pac never gained any weight and is where he should be at this stage which is WW. How the hell is him beating "bigger" guys so impressive?

            Which is it fellas.

            I wiped my ignore list clean because I want to get his hardcore fans take on this.

            The fighting bigger guy talk only really began when he moved up to 135lbs. Since then he HAS been fighting bigger guys. Oscar did have a huge height advantage that was clear regardless of the weight issue he had. Hatton weighed in at around 153lbs on fight night. Cotto weighed probably 155lbs on fight night. CLottey weighed probably 160lbs. That my friend is how you get that idea. But yes, back in his featherweight days, Pacquiao wasn't the smaller man.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Dan...
              This would be fine if you maintained the same standard for all fighters, but you don't.

              I'm sure if it was Floyd who was weighing in at less than his opponents you would be proclaiming him as some monumental giant-killer.
              Well if you are assuming which you are then just leave it at that. Dont come in my thread and make up **** bro.

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                #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                And, thing is Floyd from late 2005-late 2007. Could of still easily make 140. Floyd was a JWW beating up on WWs and JMW. He was a small dude but people want to have double standard I guess. Floyd would come in on fight night at 146-150. He was a smaller dude beating up on bigger guys.

                It is just now that Floyd has grown to the WW weight-class.
                Even during that time no one was saying"Oh my god look at little floyd go". It was what it was. In the Hatton fight he was a tank. He grew into WW quick as hell.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  140 yes but 135 is a stretch.
                  I agree,

                  I think he would struggle to make 135. I know Arum and Ariza both have come out and say that he can still make 135 and that Arum is willing to make a fight happen at 135 if the money is right. But, I think he would struggle to get there.

                  But, I think he can still easily make 140. I think 140 is Pac weight-class. I think that is the weight-class he belongs in. I just think he is good enough to compete and beat elite WWs. So that is why there should be no excuses if he losses to a WW. Because, he has proven even though for a JWW he has proven he can hang with WWs.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Well if you are assuming which you are then just leave it at that. Dont come in my thread and make up **** bro.
                    its kinda true though no?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                      142 the day of the weigh in.

                      lets say he gets off that high calorie diet. That alone would help him get to 135. Not just that but since so much of your body is made up of water, by lowering the percentage of water weight, you can easily drop 5-7 lbs.
                      But I think were we differ is that I think hed be losing muscle. If you look at him at 130 to now he looks like two different people.

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