Why do haters continue to discredit Joe Calzaghe's career?

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  • THE REED
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
    Speak for yourself, hes the most overrated fighter we've had in the sport this era. I rewatched the Hopkins fight the other day and realised how much power the guy lacked. He threw soft punches that landed. Didnt impress me one bit. Theres no skill involved in most of his fights.
    How exactly do I speak for others?

    I can only speak for myself.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Shuga Shane
      Roy wasn't quite at his best but look how good he looked against trinidad.He toyed with a future hall of famer and made it look easy.
      Come on man, that was Tito coming out of retirement at a weight-class he didn't even belong in....

      Joe Calzaghe had a good career. IMO he is a sure fire HOF'er. I rank him as the greatest SMW of all time. But, Roy was shot to hell by the time Joe beat him. I don't don't give Joe credit for that. I give Joe credit for Hopkins but not for Roy...

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        #43
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Come on man, that was Tito coming out of retirement at a weight-class he didn't even belong in....

        Joe Calzaghe had a good career. IMO he is a sure fire HOF'er. I rank him as the greatest SMW of all time. But, Roy was shot to hell by the time Joe beat him. I don't don't give Joe credit for that. I give Joe credit for Hopkins but not for Roy...
        I mean I understand Trinidad being retired for 2 years, and out of his weight class... but as you said, Roy was shot to **** when he fought Calzaghe... yet he fought Trinidad only 8 months prior...

        Does a shot fighter get credit for beating another shot fighter?

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          #44
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          I mean I understand Trinidad being retired for 2 years, and out of his weight class... but as you said, Roy was shot to **** when he fought Calzaghe... yet he fought Trinidad only 8 months prior...

          Does a shot fighter get credit for beating another shot fighter?
          Interesting and I am going to have to say yes because I think 1 cheater gets credit for beating another cheater if both cheated in the same fight.

          Just like how Funeka at 1st looked like some victim but used a banned substance to cut weight and Guzman just didn't bother make weight.

          Guzman cheated more effectively so props to him for at least being a little smarter in his underhanded ways.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            Interesting and I am going to have to say yes because I think 1 cheater gets credit for beating another cheater if both cheated in the same fight.

            Just like how Funeka at 1st looked like some victim but used a banned substance to cut weight and Guzman just didn't bother make weight.

            Guzman cheated more effectively so props to him for at least being a little smarter in his underhanded ways.
            Yeah, it's just like Trinidad was inactive for 2 years and out of his weight class... but at the same time Roy was supposed to be shot to ****.

            Not too mention 5 years older...

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              #46
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              I mean I understand Trinidad being retired for 2 years, and out of his weight class... but as you said, Roy was shot to **** when he fought Calzaghe... yet he fought Trinidad only 8 months prior...

              Does a shot fighter get credit for beating another shot fighter?
              He can get credit, but what I am saying is that Roy beating Tito does not prove that Roy was still a top fighter. What I was responding it was that he was making it seem like the Calzaghe win was good over Roy. Because, Roy was coming of a win over a HOF'er. Trying to make it seem like Roy had something left still. Which he didn't....

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                #47
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                Yeah, it's just like Trinidad was inactive for 2 years and out of his weight class... but at the same time Roy was supposed to be shot to ****.

                Not too mention 5 years older...
                The fight would have happened the same way just faster if they fought in 01 or 02.

                It was a decent win for shot Roy, Tito did better than Lacy I think.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  He can get credit, but what I am saying is that Roy beating Tito does not prove that Roy was still a top fighter. What I was responding it was that he was making it seem like the Calzaghe win was good over Roy. Because, Roy was coming of a win over a HOF'er. Trying to make it seem like Roy had something left still. Which he didn't....
                  Right, gotcha.

                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  The fight would have happened the same way just faster if they fought in 01 or 02.

                  It was a decent win for shot Roy, Tito did better than Lacy I think.
                  Yeah, I think even Lamplay and Kellerman said the same thing...

                  "This might be what it would have looked like to an extent, 7 or 8 years ago."

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by poet682006
                    So is A Mere Con lol, nyahahahahahaha

                    Poet
                    This thread isnt about Amir. And Amir isnt a b*tch. Joe went to the US at the age of 36 to make a name for himself. Amir at the age of 23.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by General Zod
                      Calzaghe >>>>>>>Khan
                      Amir at the age of 22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Calzaghe at the age of 22.

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