Can a HW be on the P4P list?

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  • boxingking500
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    #21
    Originally posted by frankenfrank
    surely not more than a midget calderon whom handles bigger men as a routine.
    both klitschkos do not deserve a p4p ranking as high as top10.
    i guess not even not top 20.
    how often do they fight against men their own size , let alone bigger men than themselves ?
    actually wlad lost to smaller men 3 times.
    and very much badly at that.
    dawson beat future cw champ and a hw contender nowadays.
    dawson also has other worthy wins , however not p4p granting wins.
    dawson was yet stopped. can you say the same about wlad whom enjoys an even bigger size advantage than the ones dawson had over his opponents ?
    wladimir has been beating top ten his whole career...... you no nothing of the klitschkos

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    • PensionKiller
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      #22
      hey mannnnnnnnnnn

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      • Capital Punch
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        #23
        If Wlad keeps knocking over guys for another few years (which would make him the most successful HW champion of all time by a mile) he might get grudging P4P respect.

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        • crold1
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          #24
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          Cliff Rold, who does the boxingscene rankings, does not include heavies in his list. His list is for non-heavies. I have asked the question before and also said that Tyson and other heavies was on the ring rankings BITD.
          To be clear, it's not an absolute. There could be an exception. I don't think Heavyweights generally display the skill level of the littler men. It's historically the case and emphatically the case right now.

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          • jrosales13
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            #25
            Mike Tyson in the late 80's was P4P #1 fighter in the World by the Ring.

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            • B.U.R.N.E.R
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              #26
              Not todays heavyweights. Hell no.

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              • HitmanHattonAY
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                #27
                Haye should be on the list

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                • boxingking500
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Not todays heavyweights. Hell no.
                  random question= who is hozumi hasegawa???

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by HitmanHattonAY
                    Haye should be on the list
                    If Haye beats a Klitschko soon, then I think he should be mention around the top 10 list.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by adamt
                      I read the latest BS P4P list and see there are no heavyweights on there, again

                      I thought pound 4 pound meant based on a boxer's skill, if they were bigger they would dominate?

                      So the list seems to be small guys , but cant it be big guys - saying IF they were smaller, they would dominate smaller divisions?

                      e.g. D Haye wss unified cruiserweight world chamption and now is HW world champion, is that not p4p?
                      P4P is just a way of saying if all of the best fighters across all weight classes could be scaled the the same size while retaining the attributes that make them successful in the 1st place who would be the best in the order of 1-10.

                      Its really subjective but on my majical p4p list our HW champ Wlad is #5

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