Comments Thread For: Team Pacquiao: "No Trade-Off on Mayweather Lawsuit"

[God 2 u]

Many people on this site may know a lot about boxing but not much about law. A defamation case is one of the hardest to ever win. Floyd and his camp have been stating opinions, they think Manny is on PED's and are asking for a drug test. The fact that Manny says his career does not need a Floyd fight and it is cemented already goes against him in the law suit. he is basically saying he is going to go down as one of the best and he already is so the statements they made have not hurt his career. Anyone can legally state an opinion which is what the Mayweather camp has done. I personally believe Pac is on something and that everyone is not talking crap about him for cherry picking fights. He said Yuri Foreman is to big but then you hear people say Floyd wont fight someone big...isnt that basically what Pac has done...Plus, the Nevada Commission isnt that great that they want to use because they know they can get passed it. How many fighters have used PED's and tested clean from the Nevad commission...At least 20+...Floyds request for OST is not the first. Tyson and Holyfield each requested it when they fought many years ago and this was done in a few other fights as well.

AGREE! JUST FOR PPL TOO UNDERSTAND

A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true. If your employer calls you a pathological liar, it is far less likely to be regarded as opinion than if such a statement is made by somebody you just met. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and instead hold that any statement that suggests a factual basis can support a cause of action for defamation.

A defense similar to opinion is "fair comment on a matter of public interest". If the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, expressing the opinion that you believe the allegations are true is not likely to support a cause of action for defamation. SO PACROID LAWSUIT WONT STICK

[Seleção No. 13]

People say Manny's got no case, but look at the backlash here. People calling him Pacroid and other childish ****. You're all products of the defamation.

[SluggerFan]

What everyone needs to understand is when you say "I KNOW WHAT HE IS TAKING AND THIS IS WHAT IT IS" like Roger said, you are f**ked. That is not an opinion, he stated it as a FACT! Without one shred of evidence to suggest that on top of it. No BALCO scandal, nothing. And come on, you don't think the judge will consider the source. Mayweathers = thugs, woman beaters, drug dealers, bar fights, etc. Pacman = nice, sincere, charisma, no trouble with the law at all, etc. No judge in his right mind will rule against Pacman, you will all see....

[God 2 u]

people say manny's got no case, but look at the backlash here. People calling him pacroid and other childish ****. You're all products of the defamation.

people calling pacroid pacroid is pacroid fault lets not get this twisted when he made 5 different excuses on why he dont want drug tested or how he want it done the fight got called off because of it he brang it upon his self if he would had just excepted and fought we would not be talking about it period and i was a fan of him till he didn't except it hes the true fraud too me.

Nd 1. Pacroid said affraid of needles, 2. He wanted it random but wants too know 3-5days before blood test (roach wanted that too) whats random bout that when peds after u stop using it get off your system in about maximum 3days 3. He lost too morales and says don't want blood test right before the day of the fight why not 3days before since him nd roach talk about 3days he'll be fine 4. 30days before the fight what a joke yet he took blood 24days before hatton fight and 20days before clottey fight 5. Ask commission he knows damn well commission wont cause zab asked for it before i bet if they said yes he'd begg too fight some where else not too mention the fight w clottey had no drug test what so ever! Just the way he likes it

[Tamis!]

Wow! A lotta experts here huh!

Please visit this thread and you might be of help with your "expertise"

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=367230

[SluggerFan]

@ God 2 U: If I said YOU were a fraud, that YOU were a joke, that YOU used PEDs, etc and then I wanted to fight you so I COULD MAKE $25+ Million, what would you say? You already a billionaire (in the Phillipines), why would you want ME to make money after dragging you thru the dirt? That is the bottom line, Pacman has money, Floyd threw it around like a complete dumb ass, talks **** about Pacman and then wants to make money off of him?!?! If I was Pacman, I would have said "F**k you Floyd" After Mosley, he's got nobody to fight (and we all know he will not fight Williams, Martinez, Pavlik or Margarito because he has turned down millions and refused to fight them). Who's the b*tch now...

[God 2 u]

@ God 2 U: If I said YOU were a fraud, that YOU were a joke, that YOU used PEDs, etc and then I wanted to fight you so I COULD MAKE $25+ Million, what would you say? You already a billionaire (in the Phillipines), why would you want ME to make money after dragging you thru the dirt? That is the bottom line, Pacman has money, Floyd threw it around like a complete dumb ass, talks **** about Pacman and then wants to make money off of him?!?! If I was Pacman, I would have said "F**k you Floyd" After Mosley, he's got nobody to fight (and we all know he will not fight Williams, Martinez, Pavlik or Margarito because he has turned down millions and refused to fight them). Who's the b*tch now...

I'D BEAT THE CRAP OUTA THEM PERIOD BILLIONAIRE OR NOT WHO DON'T WANT MONEY WE GOT OUIL COMPANY'S MAKING BILLION DOLLAR OIL MONEY DO THEY SAY AHHH WE HAVE ENUFF NO THEY GET MORE MONEY CAN COME AND GO ID BEAT DO Sugar Honey Ice Tea AND HIM NOT EXCEPTING IT AS I SAID MADE IT 1BILLION TIMES WORST THEN HIM NOT EXCEPTING IT THINK ABOUT IT NO ONE TOO FLOYD FATHER SERIOUSLY THEY PASS HIM OFF EHHH B.S. TALK I AINT PAY NO MIND WHEN MAYWEATHER ASKED 4 BLOOD TEST I TOLD MY SELF THIS IS A DONE DEAL FIGHT IS ON!!!!!! PACROID IS CLEAN HE'LL EXCEPT SINCE MAYWEATHER EXCEPTED 10MILL PER POUND BUT NOOOOOOOOOO COMPLAINS ABOUT IT MADE HIM LOOK WORST AND THE MAIN USER SPECIALLY HIS COMMENTS AND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT FLOYD HAS NO ONE TOO FIGHT JUST SHOWS YOU THE TALENT HE HAS PUT ANY NAME NEAR FLOYD NAME PPL SAY MISMATCH SAME AS PACROID BUT MORE SO TOO FLOYD CAUSE HE'S THAT GREAT PAC MADE WHAT 12 MILL OR LESS V.S. CLOTTEY SO HE WOULDNT HAVE TOO MAKE 40+ MILL BUT YET HE DONT NEED MONEY COME ON BE SERIOUS PPL CONTINUE TOO WORK CAUSE MONEY NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY LOOK FOR MORE WAYS TOO GET MORE

[SluggerFan]

God 2 U: The bottom line, Floyd NEEDS money, he's borrowed from everyone to pay his back taxes and most of his purse from Marquez is gone too. He is virtually broke (obviously the most talented broke dude I have ever heard of). The way to get back at him is in his wallet. Remember, his name is Money Mayweather (well it should be 'I aint got no more money' but thats another thread). He needs it badly, don't fight him, he doesn't make any, period. You wanna talk **** about me, then you don't make any money. It's simple and effective. Pacman wants to do politics and doesn't need to fight, is beloved all over the world and has everything going for him, whether he decides to fight or not. And by the way, Pacman is not an oil company, he is very generous, not stingy f**ks like the ********** corporations.. they are selfish ****s, Pacman is not...

[SmoothMon]

Manny can win this legal battle, Look he had a strong case and you can see it alive In these forums. OMG PAC ROID OMG PAC IS JUICING. Mayweather followers are just egging it on by what 1 man had said. More power to manny.

And lets face the facts. Some dude says Im cheating I know it aint true, why should I fight him and give him money, That's what Mayweather needs due to his own problems. Manny is ducking no one, He just Isn't giving Mayweather the payday he needs the money to keep the IRS off his back and pay off Golden Boy and his father his crack.

There is blood testing after the fight, anyone with common knowledge can tell you that taking HGH or ANY steroid needs about 2 months to feel the effect, and they do stay in the system, and a blood test after the fight will prove if a fighter Is clean.

I think we can all agree to the slick sh×t Floyd pulled by not weighing in on fight night with JMM, right? To PREVENT that from happening again Pac's camp wants a clause in the fight contract is 10Mil per pound over... Floyd's camp thinks Manny is a lil too "good" and suspects him of juicing, to PREVENT that from happening they want random drug test. I personally think they are both equally responsible for the fight never happening...BUT Floyd agreed to his bull****, Manny didn't... I'm on the fence here

[tredh]

I think we can all agree to the slick sh×t Floyd pulled by not weighing in on fight night with JMM, right? To PREVENT that from happening again Pac's camp wants a clause in the fight contract is 10Mil per pound over... Floyd's camp thinks Manny is a lil too "good" and suspects him of juicing, to PREVENT that from happening they want random drug test. I personally think they are both equally responsible for the fight never happening...BUT Floyd agreed to his bull****, Manny didn't... I'm on the fence here

The bold doesn't make any senese. What does weigh-in agreed upon weight have to do with weighing in for HBO tale of tape on fight night? A fighter can way whatever they want to weigh after they make the agreed upon weight or the weight limit for the fight. Unless the fighters agree to not way more than a certain amount coming into the ring.