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  • KiloTeague
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    #181
    Originally posted by Dan...
    In regards to this fight I just can't get away from the fact that Shane got outboxed by Cotto, and Floyd is 10 times the boxer that Miguel is. I just don't see Shane being able to deal with Mayweather's better technical ability. Just like he couldn't deal with Forrest's, or Winky's, or Oscar's when he decided to use it.

    I'll accept that Shane has a chance, but he is a pretty big dog here IMO.
    Shane has no chance to beat Mayweather unless he gets lucky and catches him flush and KO's him. Other than that, no chance. He's to slow now. In is prime, it would of been a great fight.

    Now to Cotto vs Shane. I felt it was an even fight. Should of been a draw. Cotto barely outboxed shane at the end, but he got beat up worse during and he was running. Punch stats were about equal. I would of gone draw cause it was too close to give it to anyone else. Shane had already lost so much speed by the time this fight happened, and thats why he wont beat May.

    Now to Cotto vs Shane in Legacy. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
    Its not even close. Shane for days man. Shane was much tougher, much faster, and hits harder than Cotto. He would of beat Cotto down in there prime. Like the man said, Shane was atop the pound for pound list with Roy Jones for like 3 years. Cotto has never been thought of in that light.

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #182
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      Most boxing writers thought Cotto was the bigger draw back then.

      Regarding legacy, I'm not talking about how they're perceived now, and I'm not talking about their whole careers; I'm talking about how they were perceived a year ago. At that time, they were in more or less the same position as each other in the P4P lists, and it was generally agreed that they was nearly nothing to choose between them in terms of who was the #1 Welterweight. If Pac had fought either one of them, he'd have been accused of ducking the other.
      How They was look at a year ago.Mosley was the num 1 welter hand's down if he would have fought Mosley Cotto would have fought berto.No one would have felt he duck cotto cause most felt Cotto lost to clottey No?

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      • KiloTeague
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        #183
        Originally posted by romebyko
        Another guy with this Cotto **** Cotto got a gift all he had to do was stand up at the bell he was going to win.That Cotto before the brick beating had a chance at beating Mayweather No?
        Cotto only had a chance against May in the hearts and minds of his biggest fans. In reality, his only chance is to catch May flush and KO him. Which means no chance. Hes to slow, foot and hand. Floyd would move on him. Matter of fact Bradley will move on Cotto easy and beat him.

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        • Dan...
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          #184
          Originally posted by KiloTeague
          Shane has no chance to beat Mayweather unless he gets lucky and catches him flush and KO's him. Other than that, no chance. He's to slow now. In is prime, it would of been a great fight.

          Now to Cotto vs Shane. I felt it was an even fight. Should of been a draw. Cotto barely outboxed shane at the end, but he got beat up worse during and he was running. Punch stats were about equal. I would of gone draw cause it was too close to give it to anyone else. Shane had already lost so much speed by the time this fight happened, and thats why he wont beat May.

          Now to Cotto vs Shane in Legacy. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
          Its not even close. Shane for days man. Shane was much tougher, much faster, and hits harder than Cotto. He would of beat Cotto down in there prime. Like the man said, Shane was atop the pound for pound list with Roy Jones for like 3 years. Cotto has never been thought of in that light.
          I've scored it 3 times and I always give it to Cotto. It is a close but clear fight to score IMO.

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          • Rome-By-Ko
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            #185
            Originally posted by KiloTeague
            Shane has no chance to beat Mayweather unless he gets lucky and catches him flush and KO's him. Other than that, no chance. He's to slow now. In is prime, it would of been a great fight.

            Now to Cotto vs Shane. I felt it was an even fight. Should of been a draw. Cotto barely outboxed shane at the end, but he got beat up worse during and he was running. Punch stats were about equal. I would of gone draw cause it was too close to give it to anyone else. Shane had already lost so much speed by the time this fight happened, and thats why he wont beat May.

            Now to Cotto vs Shane in Legacy. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
            Its not even close. Shane for days man. Shane was much tougher, much faster, and hits harder than Cotto. He would of beat Cotto down in there prime. Like the man said, Shane was atop the pound for pound list with Roy Jones for like 3 years. Cotto has never been thought of in that light.
            I agree with most of your post except for the Mosley does not have a chance part.Mosley has a chance I would not sleep on that man's boxing ability or his speed.Don't sleep my friend.

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              #186
              Originally posted by KiloTeague
              Cotto only had a chance against May in the hearts and minds of his biggest fans. In reality, his only chance is to catch May flush and KO him. Which means no chance. Hes to slow, foot and hand. Floyd would move on him. Matter of fact Bradley will move on Cotto easy and beat him.
              Wow don't agree with that.But I do feel May would have beat the Cotto before the brick beating he recived.But I think it would have been closer then alot of May supporter's wanna admit.Cotto is fast Bro he just get's tired and that's were I feel May would have got him.As far as Bradley maybe now I think that plaster beatin he took pretty much ended Cotto.In his prime no don't agree Cotto would have won that bud.

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              • Chief2ndzOnly!
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                #187
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                Most boxing writers thought Cotto was the bigger draw back then.

                Regarding legacy, I'm not talking about how they're perceived now, and I'm not talking about their whole careers; I'm talking about how they were perceived a year ago. At that time, they were in more or less the same position as each other in the P4P lists, and it was generally agreed that they was nearly nothing to choose between them in terms of who was the #1 Welterweight. If Pac had fought either one of them, he'd have been accused of ducking the other.
                Dave. A year ago to most hard core Boxing fans who have been following the sport throughout Shane's career(since it spans a length of time years before Cotto) did not have Cotto on Shane's level as far as legacy was concerned. Shane clearly had the advantage in that department. As for P4P lists at that particular time I do agree with you that they were close, but Shane was a fight or two removed from fighting Vargas(who before his 1st loss to Shane was riding a 4 fight win streak) at LMW, while Cotto was a fight or two removed from a Zab Judah(coming off a 3 fight losing streak).

                I dont think Pac would've been seen as ducking Cotto if he would've taken the Shane fight; as Shane looked impressive against Margarito, and Cotto looked piss poor against Clottey. We all knew that when Pac picked Cotto, that he was about to blitz Cotto as Cotto did not look like the Cotto of pre Margarito. That Cotto was a ****er, the post Margarito Cotto was strictly fighting as a survivor.

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                • KiloTeague
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by romebyko
                  I agree with most of your post except for the Mosley does not have a chance part.Mosley has a chance I would not sleep on that man's boxing ability or his speed.Don't sleep my friend.
                  Against Toney he looked fast but I predict agasnt floyd hes gonna lok slow, so slow that people will say that Shane got old since his last fight. I predict Floyd landing at will and Shane looking slow and not being able to land clean shots at all.

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                  • Tweezy316
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by romebyko
                    Wow don't agree with that.But I do feel May would have beat the Cotto before the brick beating he recived.But I think it would have been closer then alot of May supporter's wanna admit.Cotto is fast Bro he just get's tired and that's were I feel May would have got him.As far as Bradley maybe now I think that plaster beatin he took pretty much ended Cotto.In his prime no don't agree Cotto would have won that bud.
                    People make it seem like all these people have a chance against Mayweather but they get tired. As somehow that's Mayweather's fault? I mean isn't that why they train to get stamina? So why is Mayweather being lessened as a fighter because his opponents get tired? First Judah, then de la hoya, and now your talking about if cotto would have fought him it would of been close but cotto would of got tired and then May would of got him. I just wanna know. When will it stop? When will Mayweather get the respect he deserves?

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                    • KiloTeague
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by romebyko
                      Wow don't agree with that.But I do feel May would have beat the Cotto before the brick beating he recived.But I think it would have been closer then alot of May supporter's wanna admit.Cotto is fast Bro he just get's tired and that's were I feel May would have got him.As far as Bradley maybe now I think that plaster beatin he took pretty much ended Cotto.In his prime no don't agree Cotto would have won that bud.
                      Bradley is a very very good fighter who will be a pound for pound king unlike Cotto. Cotto hits harder than Bradley but thats it. And the main reason he will loose is because of what you said. Cotto gets tired, and Bradley is a marathon runner. His 12th is like his 1st. Bradley has the quick feet just like pac, and great movement and defence. Cotto has none of these. Cotto is a beast. But Bradley is better at everything, he just doesn't hit as hard as cotto, but I guarantee he is physically stronger and mentally stronger than Cotto.

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