Most effective defensive fighter in the game today

[THE REED]

Floyd without question.

[Walt Liquor]

Floyd without question.

convince me reed. if wlad gets hit less and hasn't lost a round in years, why is his d not better than floyd's.

especially when wlad uses footwork, parrying, and slipping to avoid punches.

if floyd's countering is part of d, why is wlad's jab not?

why is wlad being penalized for being tall....

no one is answering my points in this thread. they are just talking.

[piano man]

Floyd Floyd Floyd
Wlad's offense is his defense
Wlad uses his size height his power and his jab but he's no master of defense Floyd iz

[Walt Liquor]

Yeah I agree.

I don't think his defense is that good really,certainly doesn't come into talks for this liost.

YOU!

I expect an answer from you.

How is he not a defensive fighter?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

convince me reed. if wlad gets hit less and hasn't lost a round in years, why is his d not better than floyd's.

especially when wlad uses footwork, parrying, and slipping to avoid punches.

if floyd's countering is part of d, why is wlad's jab not?

why is wlad being penalized for being tall....

no one is answering my points in this thread. they are just talking.

I answered all of them....

Just because he has a good jab doesnt mean he has good d. It just means he has a good jab. Offesne doesnt equal defense. If thats thecase the Pac has great D because he just blizes people and they dont throw back.

"especially when wlad uses footwork, parrying, and slipping to avoid punches."

This is fine and dandy but you have to ask yourself does he do any of this better then Floyd?

Wlad doesnt have great defense. He has great size and a great jab. Floyd has mastered the art of not getting hit buy not USING offense. He doesnt have to jab to keep people away from him and use a 6-6 frame to do so. He just flat out blocks you or makes you miss WITHOUT having to use offense. Wlad doesnt even deserve to be on this list.

[THE REED]

convince me reed. if wlad gets hit less and hasn't lost a round in years, why is his d not better than floyd's.

especially when wlad uses footwork, parrying, and slipping to avoid punches.

if floyd's countering is part of d, why is wlad's jab not?

why is wlad being penalized for being tall....

no one is answering my points in this thread. they are just talking.

Just to make a quick comment.

Sam Peter.

How good is he, and what was he doing to Wlad?

[cortdawg25]

chris arreola got crazy D

[THE REED]

I answered all of them....

Just because he has a good jab doesnt mean he has good d. It just means he has a good jab. Offesne doesnt equal defense. If thats thecase the Pac has great D because he just blizes people and they dont throw back.

"especially when wlad uses footwork, parrying, and slipping to avoid punches."

This is fine and dandy but you have to ask yourself does he do any of this better then Floyd?

Wlad doesnt have great defense. He has great size and a great jab. Floyd has mastered the art of not getting hit buy not USING offense. He doesnt have to jab to keep people away from him and use a 6-6 frame to do so. He just flat out blocks you or makes you miss WITHOUT having to use offense. Wlad doesnt even deserve to be on this list.

The biggest part might even be the fact that he can do this by being in the pocket.

Wlad doesn't get hit MOSTLY because of how far away he is from his opponent.

Floyd can make you miss and parry your shots standing directly in front of you.

[Walt Liquor]

I answered all of them....

Just because he has a good jab doesnt mean he has good d. It just means he has a good jab. Offesne doesnt equal defense. If thats thecase the Pac has great D because he just blizes people and they dont throw back.

"especially when wlad uses footwork, parrying, and slipping to avoid punches."

This is fine and dandy but you have to ask yourself does he do any of this better then Floyd?

Wlad doesnt have great defense. He has great size and a great jab. Floyd has mastered the art of not getting hit buy not USING offense. He doesnt have to jab to keep people away from him and use a 6-6 frame to do so. He just flat out blocks you or makes you miss WITHOUT having to use offense. Wlad doesnt even deserve to be on this list.

holding/parrying/slippin/footwork. all parts of defense burner. they aren't as slippery and pretty as what floyd does but they are as effective.

i'm cool with leaving wlads jab out of the discussion if you are cool with leaving floyd's countering out of it.

wlad does the exact same thing by blocking and leaning back.

bottom line. wlad gets hit less than floyd and wins more rounds. wlad is a VERY defensive fighter. he only lets his hands go when he feels he's safe and has a shot.

i would say his footwork, parrying and dodging is better than floyd considering he is waaaay slower than floyd naturally and he gets hit less.

and stop using his size as a crutch. there are plenty of gigantic fighters that get teed off on all the time. using your god given abilities properly shouldn't take away from your defensive skills.

[Walt Liquor]

Just to make a quick comment.

Sam Peter.

How good is he, and what was he doing to Wlad?

reed, read what i wrote. i wasn't talking about 5 years ago. thanks for the effort though.