Carlos Baldomir + Zab Judah were the #1+#2 WW's when floyd beat them

[jrosales13]

I don't understand why people are even talking about Margacheato like he wasn't wearing cement wraps. This dude is a bum without plaster.

OK, cool so in April 2006, in THAT TIME you had a feeling/knew that Margarito was using plaster?

[jrosales13]

By Glenn Wilson

One by one the excuses begin, "no one wants to see that fight", "who has he fought" or " no one knows who he is". The excuses are like bricks that eventually build up into a wall-a wall that would make a lesser man give up any hope of possibly getting a big name fighter in the ring with him. But this is not your run of the mill everyday fighter. This is a man whose patience has been tested time and time again. Welcome to the world of Antonio Margarito.

On February 18, in the Aladdin Casino in Las Vegas, Antonio Margarito (32-4, 23ko's) will square off against journeyman Manuel Gomez (28-10-2, 19 ko's) in defense of his WBO Welterweight title, while he is more than happy to defend his belt, it is not exactly the fight he had hoped would kick off 2006.

Margarito is a fighter's fighter. He gets in, does his job and moves on. However, the name opponents seem to have blacklisted Antonio. Few fighters of note, from 140 to 154, appear willing to face him. But who could blame them. Margarito is at 5'11, a tall, rangy fighter who has power in both hands. He methodically takes over a fight, slowly breaking down opponents with a steady barrage of hooks and straight right hands.

Margarito has struggled at times in his career, his Junior Middleweight title shot with veteran Daniel Santos was stopped due to cuts which led to a loss via technical decision. But he rebounded by literally boxing the ear off of tough Sebastian Lujan. His last fight was nearly a year ago when he took on rising star Kermit Cintron. Cintron came into the fight with a reputation as a devastating puncher, having stopped all but two of his previous opponents. It wasn't long before Cintron was out of his element. Margarito completely outfought and overpowered Cintron to the point that many wondered if Cintron could ever come back mentally.

And still Margarito hears the excuses. Various reports said that Floyd Mayweather offered Margarito a fight on April 8 but that Margarito's management, led by Sergio Diaz Jr. and Francisco Espinosa, rejected the fight. Margarito's team said no offer ever existed. Mayweather then contradicted himself by saying no offer was made because no one knew who Antonio Margarito was and no one would want to see the fight. The truth is that most people would like to see that fight and Mexico nation would turn out in force to support Margarito.

Now we hear that Oscar De La Hoya is set to fight on May 6, opting to fight the hard hitting, wild swinging Ricardo Mayorga for the WBC Junior Middleweight title. Instead of dropping back to 147 as previously announced perhaps Oscar felt it was more beneficial to fight a guy who had lost two of his last four fights and a guy who is not rated in the top ten by most of the boxing organizations.

While De La Hoya and Mayweather have enough clout to pick and choose who they fight, Margarito is still knocking on the door. Ever the sportsman, Antonio tries to be patient and hope that somewhere down the line his name will be mentioned along with Judah, Spinks , De La Hoya or Mayweather.

Other than Mayweather, the other aforementioned fighters have one thing in common, they have all shown signs of slipping in their previous fights. That makes Margarito even more of a risk and less likely to be at the top of anyone's wish list.

Big time fighters often hurt the sport we love by choosing quantity (money) over quality (deserving opponents), while fighters like Mayorga are constantly put in title fight situations, hard working worthy contenders like Antonio Margarito are left out in the cold. Margarito deserves that shot and that big payday.

For a fighter that quote, "no one wants to see", Margarito continues to build on his already impressive career. After failing in his first attempt to win the WBO Welterweight title he was able to come back to win the vacant title with a tenth round stoppage of Antonio Diaz in March of 2002. Since then he has defended his title five times, winning all five, four by knockout.

Margarito's biggest test to date was his second round knockout of Andrew "Six Heads " Lewis in February of 2003. Lewis was known for being a knockout artist and was thought to be a fighter that would give Antonio a good fight. That fight cemented Margarito's claim as one of top welterweights in the world but may have had a double edged sword affect on him, opponents saw his ability and slowly started looking for reasons to avoid fighting him.

And now three years, later Antonio is still waiting for his signature fight. The fight that puts him on the covers of Ring and KO magazines, the fight that lets America know what Mexico has known for years, that Antonio Margarito is one of the, if not the, best welterweights in the world. Until then he will keep plugging away, defending his WBO Welterweight title against the Manuel Gomez's of the world.

This is impossible, nobody knew who Margarito was. He was a nobody he was not talked about.

[daggum]

oh plz, its already been proven by arum that floyd didnt duck margs. he wanted the money for the fight and he couldnt get it. simple fact. it wasnt a duck. lets stop acting margs was that good plz...he wasnt nothing special the first time he foguht a welter with heart, he got exposed.

yea 8 million dollars isn't enough to fight him. he needs more. did he get 8 million to fight judah? nope. you do realize that's the easiest way to duck someone don't you? claim you need more money to avoid someone. mission accomplished floyd!

if marg is nothing special then what does that make floyd? margarito fought everyone at welter in the last 5 years mosley, williams, cotto, cintron twice, clottey and more top ranked fighters. floyd has fought baldomir, judah, hatton and marquez. marg=nothing special floyd=special ed

[Flawless Loc]

Bro, how long have you been a Floyd fan? Did you just become a fan when he beat Oscar? How can you not know the 8mil was real that Ellerbe said it was real. Man I am more of a Floyd fan than you. I am done with you since you don't wnat to deal with facts.

I have been on these forums much longer than you have. Don't act like you are more of a boxing fan. I know all the facts. Offering 7 million for Hatton/Cotto and 8 for Margarito doesn't make sense. Also Arum still owned Mayweather money from the Judah fight

[Equinox]

Margarito record against top 10 were 5-0, Judah record against top 10 at the time were 2-2. So how is Margarito resume not better?

WTF? First you act like you are a boxing encyclopedia but you cant tell me what the ratings from espn and rign magazine were on April 10 2007. Now you remember that Danny Perez, Andrew Lewis, Maurice Brantley, Hercules Kyvelos, Sebastian Andres Lujan were all top 10 welterweights? What exactly were their ratings?

[Sweet Jesus]

Pac gets what, 6 or 7 million for the Clottey fight when he's a mega star, and you fools still think Arum offered Floyd 8 million to fight an absolute nobody. ****, Floyd was an absolute nobody back then.

[flexxx145]

OK, cool so in April 2006, in THAT TIME you had a feeling/knew that Margarito was using plaster?

Nope but we know now. So why are we still talking about this guy again. Back then Margarcheato wasn't a big name. Arum could have still made it happen for 2 million more. But he wanted to keep more money for himself. At the end of the day money pays the bills and not belts.

[Flawless Loc]

yea 8 million dollars isn't enough to fight him. he needs more. you do realize that's the easiest way to duck someone don't you? claim you need more money to avoid someone. mission accomplished floyd!

if marg is nothing special then what does that make floyd? margarito fought everyone at welter in the last 5 years mosley, williams, cotto, cintron twice, clottey and more top ranked fighters. floyd has fought baldomir, judah, hatton and marquez. marg=nothing special floyd=special ed

Funny, we are talking about mid 2006.

At the stage he hadn't fought Clottey. His best wins over Cintron. While Judah has beaten Spinks

Margarito was nothing back then

[jrosales13]

WTF? First you act like you are a boxing encyclopedia but you cant tell me what the ratings from espn and rign magazine were on April 10 2007. Now you remember that Danny Perez, Andrew Lewis, Maurice Brantley, Hercules Kyvelos, Sebastian Andres Lujan were all top 10 welterweights? What exactly were their ratings?

Were those two in the top 10? I didn't know that. Antonio Diaz and Manuel Gomez were in the top 10 by the Ring at the time.

Where did you get Brantley and Perez ratings?

If you got them from the Ring then that means Margarito record is 7-0 against WW top 10 not bad for a nobody huh?

[The Hate Giver]

This guy must have forgot Zab used to be the undisputed WW champ and held all the belts. What can you expect from a *******?

true meaning of undisputed in boxing means holding all the belts by the 4 main boxing organizations: wba,wbo, wbc, & ibf.

zab only had wbc, wba, & ibf.

Anybody correct me if im wrong but the last guy to hold all 4 belts in boxing is bernard hopkins. He lost it all to jermaine taylor then jermaine was stripped of one of the belts for not fighting a mandatory for one of the belts.

once again, a ***** twisting the truth.

but hey what can you expect from a flaming *****.