Carlos Baldomir + Zab Judah were the #1+#2 WW's when floyd beat them

[MaD RoBoT]

At the time Baldomir was seen as the better fighter and more of a threat

[Boxing Scene]

Everyone who knows Judah knows he is a huge joke. He shows up to fight about 20 percent of the time and even then it's for a few rounds, especially if you can punch. He gets destroyed by every great welter and JWW in history.

[daggum]

even after losing to baldomir judah was seen as the better fighter than margarito right? nothing wrong with losing to a 9 loss argentinian journeyman. happens all the time.

[big_james10]

STFU you ****** ****s and get it through your head that Zab and Carlos were the top Welterweights when Floyd fought them

Margarito was rated behind them and had never even been on HBO. Miguel Cotto wasn't even a ****ing welterweight and was just about to pick up a vacant WW title on SHO that was vacated by guess who? Mosley was up at JR Middle at the time, the same year he turned down a Floyd fight because of a tooth ache after Floyd called him out

After all this he moves up to 154 to make the richest fight in boxing history, he wins a title against the best 154lber weighing the same as Pacquiao did for his fight at 140. Do you want to hate on him for that as well you dumb ****s?

Now Ricky Hatton, for you who started watching boxing in 2009 or did'nt follow Mayweather. Back in the day, Tzyu vs Mayweather was like Mayweather vs Pacquiao, the fans were asking for it. When Hatton beat Tzyu you would always hear Mayweather vs Hatton all over the press. I lost count on how many people were saying that Hatton was the one to beat Mayweather, I even thought Hatton was going to beat him. It was a rich fight and one that a **** load of people were asking for. Hatton was the WBA Welterweight champ the year before and he was bigger than Mayweather, Mayweather always used to come in below 150 for his WW fights while Hatton would re-hydrate 10+ pounds for his 140 fights.

He then retires for a year and a half because his hands are so ****ed that some of us are lucky he even still fights. Keep on hating you ******s but I was following Mayweather and boxing in general while all this was going on. Some of you who watched boxing back then either know this but are too ****** of a hater, or didnt even care for Mayweather. I know some of you *******s out there started watching boxing in general because of Pacquiao beginning in 2008 or 2009 so STFU about the past that you dont know **** about and look towards the future because on May 2nd Mayweather is going to have the #1 WW and P4P #3 fighter in the world on his winning resume.

Great post! Excellent summary. You left out the part about how Mayweather tried to get a fight with Hatton in Mayweather's first fight at 140, but Hatton turned it down and how Mayweather called out Cotto at 140, who also turned the fight down. Unfortunately, you cannot talk logic to haters on this site because you have to have sense to understand logic!

[big_james10]

Margarito at the time was ranked higher than Zab Judah.

He wasn't according to Ring Magazine. Ring Magazine had Judah listed as the champion at 147 when he fought Baldomir.

[Equinox]

being champion & staying champion is better than being 1# contender for X number of months.

I ****king cant stand it when floyd fans try to turn ok fighters into very good fighters & very good fighters into first ballot hall of fame atg just for the sake of propping up mayweather.

i ****ing hate that **** with a passion.

when the **** did i do that? fact is judah and baldomir were tope 5 ww when he fought them. the next year he went on to do better things.

[big_james10]

Hater. Baldomir is an ATG.

Oh, and JMM was a real WW too.

You are right about Baldomir. Clottey was an ATG also. The only welterweights he had lost to prior to Pacquaio were Baldomir, Margarito and Cotto (in the fight prior to fighting Pac). He really earned that shot at Pac. Also, I think it is interesting how Pac next fight is likely to be against Margarito. He is really cleaning out the loser's bracket of the Welterweight division before he moves back down to 140 to fight an ATG in Juan Urango!


And JMM was a "real" 126 pounder who moved up to 130 and beat Pac's ass twice, even after being knocked down three times in the first round of their first fight!

[Fox McCloud]

Bernard Hopkins also beat the #1 middleweight in the world in Howard Eastman at the time... it doesn't make it an ATG win.

Judah and Baldomir and underrated wins, but beating them doesn't excuse him for not fighting Cotto after Hatton. Sorry, it just doesn't. If you don't like, it you can suck it!

It is tight that he is fighting Mosley, and if he fights Pacquiao, I feel like all this **** about not fighting whoever whoever will be forgiven, at least at welterweight.

[The Hate Giver]

when the **** did i do that? fact is judah and baldomir were tope 5 ww when he fought them. the next year he went on to do better things.

not directed at you. it was the poster i quoted.

[The Hate Giver]

You are right about Baldomir. Clottey was an ATG also. The only welterweights he had lost to prior to Pacquaio were Baldomir, Margarito and Cotto (in the fight prior to fighting Pac). He really earned that shot at Pac. Also, I think it is interesting how Pac next fight is likely to be against Margarito. He is really cleaning out the loser's bracket of the Welterweight division before he moves back down to 140 to fight an ATG in Juan Urango!


And JMM was a "real" 126 pounder who moved up to 130 and beat Pac's ass twice, even after being knocked down three times in the first round of their first fight!

the baldomir fight clottey was winning until a biased ass referee working in cahoots with baldo's promoter to get a disqualification after an unintentional head butt,

the margarito fight he was winning until he hurt both of his hands,

the clottey fight a lot of people thought he got robbed.