NSB, how come there are no more great White lower weight fighters?

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  • HandSpeed303
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Hate Giver
    What happend to them?

    What happend to the jimmy wildes, willy peps, benny leonards, jimmy mclarnins, the mickey walkers, the midget wolgasts & the harry grebs?


    When was the last time we got a great white lower weight fighter? I know we got ricky hatton recently, but lets all be honest he wasnt that great of a fighter. I know the white europeans are dominating 160 & up weight divisions but what happend to all the great white 147 & under fighters?

    I mean they all couldnt be playing in the NBA, NFL, MLB, & professional soccer right?

    what happened to them?


    Im asking boxing history the same question, i want NSB's opinion on the matter. I have theory but i want to see NSB's opinion first.


    Serious question, no hate.....


    well maybe a little but more serious, Like 80-20 serious hate ratio.
    MMA......

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    • TBear
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      #12
      This probably applies for may countries but Americans(regardless of race) are too big. That is why there has not been many champions at flyweight thru featherweight the last 30 years from America.

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      • The Hate Giver
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        #13
        Originally posted by -EAGLE-
        What you mean with white?

        Russians? White Americans? Europeans? Japanese? Indonesians? ................. define son.


        well...


        We have MALIGNAGGI
        cmon dude, i cant believe people have trouble identifying white.


        not asian, not hispanic/latin american, not african, not american black, but white;

        anglo saxons, viking descendants, irish, british whites, russians, italians etc.


        what happened to all the lower weight fighters? You mean to tell me paulie malignaggi is the best since what ricky hatton? before that who was it? ken bucannan? wayne mccollough?

        what happened to the next barney ross or benny leonard?

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        • Siggy
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          #14
          Originally posted by Pirao
          They are playing football.
          lol. this thread is a success.
          nice one, TS.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Hate Giver
            cmon dude, i cant believe people have trouble identifying white.


            not asian, not hispanic/latin american, not african, not american black, but white;

            anglo saxons, viking descendants, irish, british whites, russians, italians etc.


            what happened to all the lower weight fighters? You mean to tell me paulie malignaggi is the best since what ricky hatton? before that who was it? ken bucannan? wayne mccollough?

            what happened to the next barney ross or benny leonard?
            You're right there the lower weightclasses are mostly filled with non-white fighters; maybe MMA maybe Soccer.

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            • The Hate Giver
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              #16
              Originally posted by Pirao
              They are playing football.
              Originally posted by HandSpeed303
              MMA......
              Originally posted by -EAGLE-
              You're right there the lower weightclasses are mostly filled with non-white fighters; maybe MMA maybe Soccer.
              BULL CRAP.

              You mean to tell me willie pep, benny leonard, midget wolgast, barney ross, could have played football? You mean to tell me they had right height & physicality to play football?

              what are most white people's position in football? quarterbacks & linemen.

              The prototypical height for a quarterback is 6'3. for a line man 6 feet 300 lbs & up. You mean to tell me there are white football players of that stature that could have been featherweights, bantamweights, & lightweights?

              WRONG TRY AGAIN.

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              • The Hammer
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                #17
                Harry Greb wasn't a small fighter, he was a middleweight who fought all different sizes of opponents including light heavyweights and heavyweights.

                Whites as a percentage of the world's population are in decline, going down from over 30% of the world's population in 1900 to about 8% in 2010.

                Many boxers seem black but have some white ancestry: Andre Ward (white father) David Haye (white mother) Mike Tyson (white grandfather).

                In a few hundred years everybody will be "mixed" anyway, so race will be less important.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Hate Giver
                  BULL CRAP.

                  You mean to tell me willie pep, benny leonard, midget wolgast, barney ross, could have played football? You mean to tell me they had right height & physicality to play football?

                  what are most white people's position in football? quarterbacks & linemen.

                  The prototypical height for a quarterback is 6'3. for a line man 6 feet 300 lbs & up. You mean to tell me there are white football players of that stature that could have been featherweights, bantamweights, & lightweights?

                  WRONG TRY AGAIN.
                  He said football not American football. You call it soccer!

                  It's the world's most popular sport.

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                  • The Hate Giver
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Carnivore
                    Harry Greb wasn't a small fighter, he was a middleweight who fought all different sizes of opponents including light heavyweights and heavyweights.

                    Whites as a percentage of the world's population are in decline, going down from over 30% of the world's population in 1900 to about 8% in 2010.

                    Many boxers seem black but have some white ancestry: Andre Ward (white father) David Haye (white mother) Mike Tyson (white grandfather).

                    In a few hundred years everybody will be "mixed" anyway, so race will be less important.
                    that's a cop out answer dr.iron fist. maybe i shoudlnt use harry greb, i meant to say 147 & under.

                    where are they? ive already debunked the football answer.

                    mma? please mma just started in early 90s. they werent pilfering white talented athletes that could fit in a 118,126,135 pound fighter.

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                    • Jim Jeffries
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Siggy
                      lol. this thread is a success.
                      nice one, TS.
                      So let me get this straight.

                      You think basketball and football are perfectly viable excuses as to why there aren't any current great American HWs, but soccer is an absurd excuse for the lower weights for Europeans? Interesting.

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