Title Defenses: W. Klitschko 13 Lennox Lewis 12

[Jim Jeffries]

Tyson was shot, but Wlad list in not good at all. Wlad list can't compare to Lennox. Just Galota, Tua, Holy, and Vitaly alone is better than Wlad resume bro.

Someone earlier brought up that Golota never beat a top 10 contender in his career. Is that true?

[Pirao]

My mistake, that;'s why I said most if not all.

Are you saying Wlad's resume is btter than Lewis's?

Are you trying to put words in my mouth?

Lewis resume right now is superior. Saying that Tua would beat most of Wlad's resume is ******. Chambers, who Wlad KOd yesterday, would probably school Tua like Byrd did, as would a number of other guys in Wlad's resume.

[Pirao]

Tyson was shot, but Wlad list in not good at all. Wlad list can't compare to Lennox. Just Galota, Tua, Holy, and Vitaly alone is better than Wlad resume bro.

Why are you ducking my question? If Tua is such a great win for Lennox, then Byrd must be too for Wlad since he took Tua to school.

[Mr. Invincible]

I don't know if anyone has made a remark about this but last night with his victory over Chambers Wladimir has eclipsed the career total defenses of Lennox Lewis.

Lewis' Defenses:

Frank Bruno
Phil Jackson
Henry Akinwande
Andre Golota
Shanno Briggs
Zeljko Mavrovic
Holyfield
Francois Botha
Michael Grant
David Tua
Mike Tyson
Vitali Klitschko

Klitschko Defenses:

Derrick Jefferson
Charles Shufford
Francois Botha
Ray Mercer
Jameel McCline
Calvin Brock
Ray Austin
Lamon Breswster
Sultan Ibragimov
Tony Thompson
Ruslan Chagaev
Hasim Rahman
Eddie Chambers

I would say that Wlad has 6-8 fights left in him which could bring his career total over 20 titles defenses and put him in very select company. I believe only Holmes and Louis had as many as 20 in the Heavyweight Division.

Looking at Lewis' list it isn't very impressive, especially considering the high regard he is held in today. His biggest and most impressive win is arguably Vitali Klitschko, a guy who most Lewis supporters consider to be highly overrated.

And.........many thought he would have went on to lose that fight had he not cut Vitali. I'm one of them.

All in all, when it's said and done, Wlad will be about the same place Lennox is on the all time list. Not at the top but most certainly top ten.

[Boxin']

Larry Holmes had 20 title defences

/thread

[PensionKiller]

Lewis's Noteable Resume:

Wins:

Donovan Rudduck
Frank Bruno
Phil Jackson
Henry Akinwande
Andre Golota
Shanno Briggs
Zeljko Mavrovic
Evander Holyfield
Francois Botha
Michael Grant
David Tua
Mike Tyson
Vitali Klitschko
Oliver Mccall
Tomyy Morrison
Ray Mercer
Hasim Rahman
Tony Tucker

Losses: Mccall, Rahman. Note: Avenged




Wladimir's Noteable Resume:

Derrick Jefferson
Charles Shufford
Francois Botha
Ray Mercer
Jameel McCline
Calvin Brock
Ray Austin
Lamon Breswster
Sultan Ibragimov
Tony Thompson
Ruslan Chagaev
Hasim Rahman
Eddie Chambers
Monte Barrett
Chris Byrd
Samuel Peter

Losses: Sanders, Brewster, Purity. Wlad reveneged his lsos to Brewster.

Both have very good names, but for me, Lewis has better. He also revenged his losses which helps him while Wladimir has not.

Also do not even say Vitali beat up the other two guys for Wlad. That is ****** for me. Both brothers want Haye, it doesn't count on either guys resume if one beats him up.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Why are you ducking my question? If Tua is such a great win for Lennox, then Byrd must be too for Wlad since he took Tua to school.

Traingle Theories.

[Pirao]

Traingle Theories.

What triangle theories? I'm tired of having to read your idiotic posts in every Klitschko thread, when you almost never have any valid points to make or anything to add to the discussion, but I'll give you a chance: explain why Byrd is not a good win for Wlad but Tua is a good win for Lewis. Apart from you being biased against the Klitschkos of course.

[Mr. Invincible]

Looking at both Lewis and Wlad list. Lewis list 10x more impressive than Wlad list.

Who on that list at the time Lennox defeated them would have had a shot at beating the Wlad that stiffened Chambers last night?

That's what I thought.

[GRANDSLAM]

Rahman isn't on Lewis' list and Holyfield should have been counted twice as he defended the WBC belt against him twice. You haven't included the McCall defense either or we only including winning defenses for Lewis? You can twist it however you want but nothing can disguise the fact that Wlad is the most boring champ in the worst HW division in a long long time. Lewis beat his older and better brother on a weeks notice by punching 5 cuts around his eye, again you can twist it however you like but Vitali's face was ****ed and he had to be stopped and surely you're not going to make a case for Wlad being able to beat Lewis. Lewis would've stopped him in 3, on a weeks notice hahahaha. Also how can either Klitchko establish a legacy without fighting the best out there i.e. eachother or Haye (without the bull**** 3 fight slave deal)?

When was the last time someone actually fought back against Wlad? Chagaev is a ****ing bum.

Haye by 5th round KTFO.