All I know is that Margarito vs Pac is a bull**** fight. What has Valero done to get a shot at Pac anyway? **** all that. Pac needs to fight Floyd, but it won't happen as long as both camps continue with their bull****. Floyd and Pac need to man up, and do this **** for the sport of boxing. I understand that Floyd is a little intimidated by Pacquiao (who wouldn't be) but still he has to drop his bull**** demands and make the ****en fight happen
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As much as possible, Pac is not goin to fight GB fighters because GB takes a percentage from Manny's purse when he faces a GB promoted fighter. The Pac-Clottey fight will give Pac his biggest take home pay since the ODLH fight since he is getting 90% of the purse, plus he doesn't have to split his share with Golden Boy even though the PPV buys will only be less than 800K..
As far as Roach is concern, he doesn't have any pull in the negotiations. He doesn't have that influence in Pac as he did 3 years ago. His opinion is just what it is, his own. It may not be the position that Pac will have regarding his negotiations for his next fight.. And that he is only there as an advisor on who is the fighter that would be good against Pac for his next fight. But at the end of the day it is still Top Rank and Pac who will make the decision. And they are makin' their decision on which fights will make them the most money..
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Originally posted by AddiX View PostIt's not exploitation, thats how the boxing business has always worked. How do you think GBP has all those guaranteed fight dates on HBO until 2012? They leveraged Oscar and said if you want him you have to give us all these fight dates.
Top Rank isnt doing anything wrong here, this is just how boxing works. Every fight requires a negotiation process, in which the company and fighters with the most leverage get the most money/set the rules.
Manny just made an insane amount of money for fighting an easy fight. 65K seats sold is what Arum has done for Manny. I'm sick of people who say Arum is ripping pac off. Pac was nobody before Top Rank took him in and used their leverage to get Manny on HBO, no one even knew who he was before he fought Marco. He than proceeded to fight all the biggest names in boxing and made insanes amount of money.
People forget Arum is the same guy that did this for Oscar. Of course Oscar makes money off his fighters, hes a business man. But he sure as **** makes them more money than anyone else can.
Arum takes his time building his fighters more than anyone else. Cotto had a few set backs and Arum waited a long time for him to show he was ready. Guys like Nonito, JuanMa, are on PPV fights because Arum spends money out of his own pocket to make sure they get TV time, it's not like hes making a ton of money off those PPV's.
Though you are speaking in a manner of business taste, I am speaking as a fan. That's why I'm just a poster as you are as well here at Boxingscene, coz if we're up at wallstreet you're gonna give Arum and Schaeffer a run for their money.
But sorry I'm not buying what you wrote on the last part of your reply on bold.Last edited by Tamis!; 03-20-2010, 05:49 PM.
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Originally posted by jri9d0 View PostWhich is precisely my point, you already answered it.
He made peanuts with Murad and he’s now making seven fold with Arum. As grimy as this looks on Arum’s part I don’t think Manny would make that move so suddenly.
Yeah that's the sickest fact, Manny's too tied up with Arum citing on the premise that he owes his success much to Arum, which is wrong to an extent, coz he made enough money with Manny and enough is enough!
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Yeah. Bob always talk a lot of crap. He even made Gary Shaw mad because he said that he is interested at making Valero fight Bradley. Same goes for Pavlik going against Williams. If only Pac could leave Arum, the negotiations on Mayweather fight would turn smoother.
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Originally posted by Frank Martin View PostYeah. Bob always talk a lot of crap. He even made Gary Shaw mad because he said that he is interested at making Valero fight Bradley. Same goes for Pavlik going against Williams. If only Pac could leave Arum, the negotiations on Mayweather fight would turn smoother.
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