Is Carl Froch currently the most overrated fighter?

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  • MOTHER DUCKER
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    #11
    Originally posted by Fiasco
    He doesn't even deserve his current rating.

    Some people actually consider him to be a top 3 super middleweight. Terrible.
    Who do you rate over him?

    He beat Dirrel, Taylor, Pascal (current Lhw champ now)

    Ward has beat Kessler/Miranda
    Abraham has beat Taylor
    Dirrel has beat no one
    Kessler lost his title and hasn't beat anyone for a while

    Im not denying he is pretty limited but based on his last few fights he should be ranked fairly high at SMW, Bute also has done good of late.. but really i see no SMW with some amazing record right now.

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    • Flawless Loc
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      #12
      Originally posted by snootz86
      Who do you rate over him?

      He beat Dirrel, Taylor, Pascal (current Lhw champ now)

      Ward has beat Kessler/Miranda
      Abraham has beat Taylor
      Dirrel has beat no one
      Kessler lost his title and hasn't beat anyone for a while

      Im not denying he is pretty limited but based on his last few fights he should be ranked fairly high at SMW, Bute also has done good of late.. but really i see no SMW with some amazing record right now.
      If he beats Kessler, he becomes an SMW ATG.

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      • Fiasco
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        #13
        Originally posted by snootz86
        Who do you rate over him?

        He beat Dirrel, Taylor, Pascal (current Lhw champ now)

        Ward has beat Kessler/Miranda
        Abraham has beat Taylor
        Dirrel has beat no one
        Kessler lost his title and hasn't beat anyone for a while

        Im not denying he is pretty limited but based on his last few fights he should be ranked fairly high at SMW, Bute also has done good of late.. but really i see no SMW with some amazing record right now.
        Kessler was previously the #1. Due to the fact that he lost and Bute beat Andrade not long after, he should be at #3.

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        • Clegg
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          #14
          No.

          Froch has a better resume than he is given credit for. Even though he was fortunate to get the decision against Dirrell, people seem to make excuses for his wins over Pascal and Taylor as if they somehow don't count.

          Winning a fight due to toughness, aggression and determination is no less legit than winning a fight due to skills and talent. Froch beat Taylor and Pascal because he was the better fighter on the night. Some boxing fans seem to feel that if you are able to wear someone down and use your superior stamina than you're lucky, but if you win a fight due to your speed then you're not.

          Look at it this way: Froch's best wins are better than Kessler's best wins, yet Froch is still the underdog for their fight despite Kessler coming off of a bad loss that might have taken something out of him. Doesn't seem to me as if Froch is being overrated.

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          • Ray*
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            #15
            Froch is finally getting his dues after years of hard work, He might be very much talked about but that doesnt = overrated

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            • black.ink
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              #16
              One of the most hated fighters on the forums. Not overrated.

              He may have over-achieved, but due to a limited skill set, he still pulls out wins over impressive names.

              If he beats Kessler, his resume surpasses Calzaghe's in my opinion. Then he'll face Abraham in what should be the biggest fight at 168 since Calzaghe/Kessler. Again, that's IF he beats Kessler.

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              • Fiasco
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                #17
                Originally posted by Clegg
                No.

                Froch has a better resume than he is given credit for. Even though he was fortunate to get the decision against Dirrell, people seem to make excuses for his wins over Pascal and Taylor as if they somehow don't count.

                Winning a fight due to toughness, aggression and determination is no less legit than winning a fight due to skills and talent. Froch beat Taylor and Pascal because he was the better fighter on the night. Some boxing fans seem to feel that if you are able to wear someone down and use your superior stamina than you're lucky, but if you win a fight due to your speed then you're not.

                Look at it this way: Froch's best wins are better than Kessler's best wins, yet Froch is still the underdog for their fight despite Kessler coming off of a bad loss that might have taken something out of him. Doesn't seem to me as if Froch is being overrated.
                The Pascal win is legit.

                The Taylor win is still lucky. There was like.. what? 30 seconds left in the fight. If Taylor didn't gas out in the last 30 seconds, he wouldn't be the champion, anymore. And don't act like it was a prime Taylor that he fought.

                Froch has a one legit win over prime fighter, a lucky win over past-prime fighter and a flat-out robbery of a win over a green Dirrell.. Kessler has been in more title fights and beaten more top 10 opposition than Froch has.

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                • deadbeat hero
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Fiasco
                  He's not undefeated.
                  OK, don't expect too many people to take you seriously though....

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                  • Toda Caine
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                    #19
                    I don't think Froch is overrated.

                    I do think he's the most unskilled fight I've seen.

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                    • Chrismart
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by black.ink
                      One of the most hated fighters on the forums. Not overrated.

                      He may have over-achieved, but due to a limited skill set, he still pulls out wins over impressive names.

                      If he beats Kessler, his resume surpasses Calzaghe's in my opinion. Then he'll face Abraham in what should be the biggest fight at 168 since Calzaghe/Kessler. Again, that's IF he beats Kessler.
                      I agree, if he beats Kessler id say his resume would be better tha Clazaghe's (who im a big fan of). A win against Abraham would deffo sal the deal. 2 Tough fight though.

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