In response to Tortilla Warrior's Thread: If Floyd was on PEDS.......

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Floyd is scared that Philipino PED'S are better than USA PED'S

Floyd faked the rib injury to cycle it out of his system and then try and fight Pac.

I have not seen any fighter so fast, athletic, have a great chin, reflexes than Floyd

Look at him on the ropes and ****, they were he skips is another level

he was 106 at the same age as Pacquaio

He often shouts and calls people names like he ahs roid rage

Look at how he staretd on Mosely. Typical roid rager

Yup I agree.


So why doesnt FLOYD want to take the tests?










oh wait.

[Eaner0919]

Btw, in response to the thread. Floyd might be on PED's, I'm not sure either way. All I know is he's willing to prove he's clean, and in my opinion. that speaks volumes.

I agree with this

who knows who is on what

however at least one fighter and now one promotional firm are willing to prove they and their fighters are not or will not fight against those who might be using PEDs

here is a question serious one

if you told a fighter

"hey I will give you *.* million to fight _______ it will be the most you have ever earned by a lot, it will be the biggest fight of your career and there is a chance you could win BUT you have to submit to random PED testing"

how many would say no and how many would say yes to the fight?

[Jo94403]

Btw, in response to the thread. Floyd might be on PED's, I'm not sure either way. All I know is he's willing to prove he's clean, and in my opinion. that speaks volumes.

Who ever said that Manny is not willing to prove he's clean. He has proved it time and time again with all his previous test and came out ALL NEGATIVE!

What all you people are missing is, just like what Ariza said, Manny is not afraid of taking the test, he's afraid that he gets weak after taking it.

This is just a ploy from Floyd jr. He knows that Manny will test negative. He's just trying to get an upper hand against his opponents in the ring and out of it. He knows that Manny does not want to take the test close to the fight because Manny admitted that it makes him weak. He blames the 1st lost to Morales because he had to take a blood test the day before the fight.

Did you guys even realize all the test that he took in the past including the one day before the Morales fight and still ALL HIS PREVIOUS TEST CAME OUT NEGATIVE.

Stop with all this Mayweather will prove it, why not Manny. HE HAS PROVED IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

Are you guys just forgetting about all his previous test. Are you saying that they don't mean ****.

Then that's BULL ****!!!! You must be on some kind of drugs yourself.

[PensionKiller]

Yup I agree.


So why doesnt FLOYD want to take the tests?










oh wait.

2 years off cycled it out of his system. Few extra months with the rib injury cycled the weaker ones out

It's easy to say, come in my house and check it out to the police if you know you have taken away the drugs to another location

Or to get yourself searched for weapons when you know you're clean

[Eaner0919]

Who ever said that Manny is not willing to prove he's clean. He has proved it time and time again with all his previous test and came out ALL NEGATIVE!

What all you people are missing is, just like what Ariza said, Manny is not afraid of taking the test, he's afraid that he gets weak after taking it.

This is just a ploy from Floyd jr. He knows that Manny will test negative. He's just trying to get an upper hand against his opponents in the ring and out of it. He knows that Manny does not want to take the test close to the fight because Manny admitted that it makes him weak. He blames the 1st lost to Morales because he had to take a blood test the day before the fight.

Did you guys even realize all the test that he took in the past including the one day before the Morales fight and still ALL HIS PREVIOUS TEST CAME OUT NEGATIVE.

Stop with all this Mayweather will prove it, why not Manny. HE HAS PROVED IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

Are you guys just forgetting about all his previous test. Are you saying that they don't mean ****.

Then that's BULL ****!!!! You must be on some kind of drugs yourself.

Shane Mosley

-tested clean 100% of the time
-admitted to using PEDs in 2003

[Jo94403]

Shane Mosley

-tested clean 100% of the time
-admitted to using PEDs in 2003

How can you even compare Shane with Manny. Have you been following how hard Manny works during his training. Do you think that maybe that has something to do with his performance in the ring not because of PED. Great athletes have a incredible work ethic. Look at Kobe Bryant who goes to the basketball gym at 6am in the morning to practice.

Give the guy (Manny) some credit man.

[Dynamite Kid]

If Floyd was on PEDS why would he wait for the biggest fight of his career to get OFF of them vs. Pacquiao?

Makes zero sense. He wouldnt. If PEDS worked for him for 40 fights why get off for the 41st in the biggest fight of his career?? Your logic fails.


Clown.

Can you prove 100% that Floyd is not on them?

[Jo94403]

Shane Mosley

-tested clean 100% of the time
-admitted to using PEDs in 2003

Shane may have tested clean, but there were some seized evidence that showed his red blood cells level ****ing to abnormal high.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2007-09-28-mosley-report_N.htm

According to SI.com, evidence seized during the BALCO raids showed Mosley had blood work done to measure his hematocrit level, the volume of red blood cells, at 44. In a calendar with his file, the date of July 26 was circled, accompanied by the word "start" and the letter "e," the website reported, and the boxer's level increased to 52.2 by Aug. 8.

"Most men are in the low 40s," Dr. Gary Wadler, a member of the World Anti-Doping Association, told SI.com. "Anything over 50 is considered off the charts."

[Eaner0919]

How can you even compare Shane with Manny. Have you been following how hard Manny works during his training. Do you think that maybe that has something to do with his performance in the ring not because of PED. Great athletes have a incredible work ethic. Look at Kobe Bryant who goes to the basketball gym at 6am in the morning to practice.

Give the guy (Manny) some credit man.

um show me where I discredited Manny's work ethic?

here is what you said

that he has proven himself to be clean every time he tested

thats fine

however, Shane Mosley too has a clean testing record and he was indeed using PEDs during that span in 2003

so I never ****ted on Manny more than the clean testing not being the be all and end all proof when we know it has failed once before

and yes I have been around Manny before during his camps when they were open. I know how hard he trains.

so too does Mosley. Have you ever witnessed a Mosley training day? If not then how do you know if they compare in work?

[Eaner0919]

Shane may have tested clean, but there were some seized evidence that showed his red blood cells level ****ing to abnormal high.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2007-09-28-mosley-report_N.htm

According to SI.com, evidence seized during the BALCO raids showed Mosley had blood work done to measure his hematocrit level, the volume of red blood cells, at 44. In a calendar with his file, the date of July 26 was circled, accompanied by the word "start" and the letter "e," the website reported, and the boxer's level increased to 52.2 by Aug. 8.

"Most men are in the low 40s," Dr. Gary Wadler, a member of the World Anti-Doping Association, told SI.com. "Anything over 50 is considered off the charts."

but again what does this have to do with the notion that clean testing is the be all end all in whether a fighter is clean when we have clear proof it's not?

tell me so I can move on