We have no proof....but we do have common sense!

[markfrombrookly]

What Pac is doing is no longer about what he's doing historically as a boxer, but more about what he's doing historically as a human being. If you lay out that he has been boxing over 15 years, close to 60 fights (that also includes almost 60 training camps), moved up 7 weight classes, and his punch output has increased with each division he has moved up. Now call me what you want. But this is the same guy that I witnessed with my own eyes catch Marquez flush 4 times and drop him but was never able to rattle his cage (same thing for Morrales who just sat on his behind and shake his head and quit) yet he is disconnecting bigger men from their senses with one punch. What he's doing is similar to Barry Bonds NEVER hitting anywhere close to 50 hrs to him sudenly ******* that many by August. The only way I think they get away with denial with a clear conscious is because all the people pointing fingers are misdiagnosing it. I think everyone is making a mistake by saying "steriods". It may very well not be steroids, but I believe it's closer to the endurance doping cyclists take during training....not necessarily during the event. How many times do I have to hear about legendary 8 hour workout sessions? Or watch him throw 1,200 plus punches with vigor in his 7th weight class? It's simply common sense.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head just with that sentence. But you know Pac fans are still in denial. Alot of people want to believe Pac because he's a humble and nice person and Floyd is arrogant and has a big mouth. If the shoe was on the other foot people would be screaming about Mayweather doing steroids. Just because someone is nice and humble doesn't mean they're not above cheating. Look at McGuire and Sosa they seemed like really nice guys but obviously that doesn't mean **** because they both cheated!

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Man all Pac fans accused MAB of being on roids back in 2005 and they accused JMM of being gay.

So get off the high horse.

now you're story telling...MAB on roids? man STFU

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

now you're story telling...MAB on roids? man STFU

Man like I said I was here then you werent:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53057&highlight=Roids+Marco

Here you go.

I dont make up ****.

[Left Banned Tua]

Man like I said I was here then you werent:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53057&highlight=Roids+Marco

Here you go.

I dont make up ****.

sarcasm.

look it up , dumbfuck.



only your dumb ass would take a sarcastic joke thread seriously.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

sarcasm.

look it up , dumbfuck.



only your dumb ass would take a sarcastic joke thread seriously.

Man grow up. All you do is petty name calling. Your worse then Flawless.


Like I said YOU werent on this site. People were saying that. They were also saying JMM was gay. Thats not the only thread on that.

By Pac fans.

[ILLuminato]

So Pacquiao has to throw under 50 punches to not be taking steroids?

[Left Banned Tua]

Man grow up. All you do is petty name calling. Your worse then Flawless.


Like I said YOU werent on this site. People were saying that. They were also saying JMM was gay. Thats not the only thread on that.

By Pac fans.

LMFAO

do you even know how the jmm is gay talk started?

it came from pics of jmm from wbc japan of the marquez camp.

marquez is real close friends with the japanese guy in his corner and they had pictures of themselves sitting on each other's lap and hugging each other and laying in bed together.

no one really cares if jmm is gay or thinks he's really gay. it was a long running joke.

[Toda Caine]

He was always very active and very powerful. He bludgeoned Barrera in 2003, dropping him a couple of times. And Barrera was tough, the no. 1 in the division. But his power was slightly less of a showcase because he was crude and people could survive against him using technical nous... nowadays, now that he has Ariza and the partnership of him and Roach has matured, he's fitter, and a better fighter. Nothing surprises me. He's always been a murderous puncher. Ariza is a great strength and conditioning coach. Manny's whole diet is designed for strength and conditioning. He drinks 6 protein shakes a day, and six meals. Anyway, people are acting like he's killing guys. He never knocked Cotto out, it was a TKO down to accumulation, he dropped him but Cotto has always had a shaky chin.... He didn't put Oscar down. He KO'd Hatton but that was a hail mary punch. So let's not exaggerate his power. Clottey said he didn't feel it, it was more the speed and leverage Pac generates

Yep......agree

[NEELZ]

Barry Bonds gained a lot of weight. He probably entered the league at 175 lbs. Then went to over 220 lbs. He was not a boxer and never had to make weight. A boxer is at a stripped down version of his weight when he gets ready for a fight. I see no comparison to Barry Bonds. Bonds never was tested for drugs. Pacman's been continuously tested. Floyds fans continue to reach with the roids and PEDs accusations. Just use common sense. Floyds fans love Floyd so much they will try to smear anybody who challenges him. That is what it is all about.

[Bennett]

its like if roy jones started knocking heavies out when he fought ruiz. wouldnt that set alarms off?