We have no proof....but we do have common sense!

[champ_kw]

What Pac is doing is no longer about what he's doing historically as a boxer, but more about what he's doing historically as a human being. If you lay out that he has been boxing over 15 years, close to 60 fights (that also includes almost 60 training camps), moved up 7 weight classes, and his punch output has increased with each division he has moved up. Now call me what you want. But this is the same guy that I witnessed with my own eyes catch Marquez flush 4 times and drop him but was never able to rattle his cage (same thing for Morrales who just sat on his behind and shake his head and quit) yet he is disconnecting bigger men from their senses with one punch. What he's doing is similar to Barry Bonds NEVER hitting anywhere close to 50 hrs to him sudenly ******* that many by August. The only way I think they get away with denial with a clear conscious is because all the people pointing fingers are misdiagnosing it. I think everyone is making a mistake by saying "steriods". It may very well not be steroids, but I believe it's closer to the endurance doping cyclists take during training....not necessarily during the event. How many times do I have to hear about legendary 8 hour workout sessions? Or watch him throw 1,200 plus punches with vigor in his 7th weight class? It's simply common sense.

[nujabes77]

you do know that a lot atg fighters fought more and longer than pac right?

[Sin City]

is it common sense to base something of speculation and hearsay rather than on facts? no...

Main Entry: common sense
Function: noun
Date: 1726

: sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts

[kadyo's]

Whoreus, come out and play!

[Kilrain]

He was always very active and very powerful. He bludgeoned Barrera in 2003, dropping him a couple of times. And Barrera was tough, the no. 1 in the division. But his power was slightly less of a showcase because he was crude and people could survive against him using technical nous... nowadays, now that he has Ariza and the partnership of him and Roach has matured, he's fitter, and a better fighter. Nothing surprises me. He's always been a murderous puncher. Ariza is a great strength and conditioning coach. Manny's whole diet is designed for strength and conditioning. He drinks 6 protein shakes a day, and six meals. Anyway, people are acting like he's killing guys. He never knocked Cotto out, it was a TKO down to accumulation, he dropped him but Cotto has always had a shaky chin.... He didn't put Oscar down. He KO'd Hatton but that was a hail mary punch. So let's not exaggerate his power. Clottey said he didn't feel it, it was more the speed and leverage Pac generates

[Left Banned Tua]

if fat ass tua can throw 800 against an ibeabuchi who threw 1000......

manny can throw 1200 against a guy who barely punches back.

[Left Banned Tua]

you do know that a lot atg fighters fought more and longer than pac right?

man they use to fight to 30 round fights back then.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Man all Pac fans accused MAB of being on roids back in 2005 and they accused JMM of being gay.

So get off the high horse.

[Left Banned Tua]

Man all Pac fans accused MAB of being on roids back in 2005 and they accused JMM of being gay.

So get off the high horse.

who the hell accused mab of roids?

don't make **** up.

[Ray*]

No proof, But my common sense came in when too many excuse were coming out from Team Pacquiao, I dont see anything extra-ordinary in what Pacqauio has achieve so far in his career to make him su****ious to me but those excuses made me su****ious as hell.