Team Pac is always mentioning all these other boxers they could fight

[Blue Heffner]

Floyd wants Pacquaio and Pacquaio wants Floyd...It's Pac's Team (Roach) and promoter that doesn't want Floyd.

[Khalid X]

No, I would not have had a field day. But if there was an agreement there, that is understandable. Sort of like Floyd-Zab situation. But could he have eventually fought Raheem, OF COURSE! I thought he should have..

but Raheem lost to Frietas after that. So when Pac moved up who should he have fought outta those two. On top of that by the time he did move up, Diaz beat Frietas added more confusion according to the Pac ducking Raheem theory shared by many on NSB. At that time, Manny just wasn't ready for 135 and if Raheem was at 130 after the trilogy, then Pac would have fought him. His lost immediantly after, so it's a moot point.

Arum was ONLY going to put him in there with a Top Rank fighter, even if the others were available, IMO. He was pissed at GBP and he wanted to keep his money to himself.

The honest un-biased answer is that Clottey was the best available opponent regardless of promotional company. Also 4 outta his last 6 opponents leading up to Clottey were GBP fighters. I hope your not saying that all Manny does is fight top rank guys because that couldn't be further from the truth.

Yes, I like Manny. I'm not going to sit here and lie to you. I'm a bigger Mayweather fan though. And you don't see me hating on Manny, boy stop. I've been critical of Manny since December 09 with his 29,33039,033 excuses why not to take a blood test AFTER he agreed to.

Well I take your word for it. I must have you mixed up with someone else then.

[kadyo's]

TS is always mentioning Pac in every thread he makes.

[Khalid X]

That's interesting. Floyd fought for The Ring belt in his first fight at 135.

That was Floyd's second division. Pac was moving up weight fast and was entering his 5th division. Floyd didn't fight for the ring belt his first fight in his 3rd, 4th or 5th division either.

[Chups]

OK, you can have that. But he still could have fought Raheem after he beat Morales.

Raheem is a lightweight. Pac didn't get to lightweight till Diaz. By that time Raheem already lost to Frietas.

[Sweet Jesus]

That was Floyd's second division. Pac was moving up weight fast and was entering his 5th division. Floyd didn't fight for the ring belt his first fight in his 3rd, 4th or 5th division either.

Floyd fought De La Hoya in his first fight in his 5th division.

[V.WEBB]

but Raheem lost to Frietas after that. So when Pac moved up who should he have fought outta those two. On top of that by the time he did move up, Diaz beat Frietas added more confusion according to the Pac ducking Raheem theory shared by many on NSB. At that time, Manny just wasn't ready for 135 and if Raheem was at 130 after the trilogy, then Pac would have fought him. His lost immediantly after, so it's a moot point.

Pac fought Morales in January. Raheem fought PoPo in April. It could have been made. Also, I wouldn't put it past Raheem going down to 130 to fight Manny after Manny beat Morales in their second fight to get a big fight with Pac. The third fight to me was pointless.

The honest un-biased answer is that Clottey was the best available opponent regardless of promotional company. Also 4 outta his last 6 opponents leading up to Clottey were GBP fighters. I hope your not saying that all Manny does is fight top rank guys because that couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm not saying all he does is fight Top Rank guys. Re-read what I said. I personally feel that his promoter was NOT going to put him in there with ANY other fighter from ANY other stable EVEN IF they were available. That is my honest opinion on that. Bob was not about to do business with GBP after the negotiations broke down. Like the Pac-Margo talk. I see Bob bringing that up so that he can keep his money in house, because IMO Margo doesn't deserve a shot at Manny after what happened with him last year.

Well I take your word for it. I must have you mixed up with someone else then.

Yea, I think you mixed me up with someone else. I like the dude. I think Floyd beats him, but that does not mean that I am a hater. And I criticized him for the testing excuses and all that. I get in into it alot with his stans so that may make it seem as though I don't like him. But that aint true.

[Khalid X]

Floyd fought De La Hoya in his first fight in his 5th division.

so Oscar was the ring champ at 154? Thats a first.

[JOM'S]

Raheem is a lightweight. Pac didn't get to lightweight till Diaz. By that time Raheem already lost to Frietas.

yup by the time PAC went to LW, Raheem was a non entity anymore ...

[V.WEBB]

yup by the time PAC went to LW, Raheem was a non entity anymore ...

You don't think they could have fought AFTER Pac beat Morales in the second fight and BEFORE Raheem fought Popo?