Why Does Manny Get a Pass for Cherry Picking Opponents?

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  • rskumm21
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    #151
    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
    I can't let you get away with this reply...lol

    MAB beat three future HOF including Morales and look better than he ever did prior to facing Pacquiao. This along with other things, is why I say his win over MAB is his best win.

    To say Barrera was never the same is foolish simply due to the fact that he dominated some Hamed, Ayala, Tapia, Kelley and several other top fighters shortly after.
    Of course Barrera beats those guys, he was better than them even past his prime. Fact of the matter was they were past it as well.
    Hamed- At the end of his career, (only fought once after fighting Barrera)
    Ayala- Past his prime, Literally the end of his career/last fight
    Kelley- Was Way, Way, WAY past his prime. He was on a decline 8 years prior to his fight with Barrera.

    As far as several other fighters, there weren't any other, at least not that I can recall, correct me if I'm wrong.

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    • jrosales13
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      #152
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Bro everybody can be criticized. Pac is not above the law.

      Casamayor he shouldve fought instead of Diaz.

      Mosley he shouldve fought over Cotto.
      That would of been a better fight, I can say why he didn't fight Casa. But, at the end of the day Casa was the lineal champ. Was he the best at that weight-class I don't think so but he was the lineal champ....

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        #153
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Jro I kno you are a Pac fan but hes not above criticism my dude.
        He is not and I am not saying he is. But, I will say this was you giving him criticism for taking those fights when you was picking those same fighters to beat him?

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          #154
          Originally posted by Biolink
          I can excuse that line of thought for casual boxing fans that only tune in for big fights for having that line of thought. A casual fans would say "Pacquiao has more memorable and bigger names on his resume, end of discussion"

          But we're all here on a Boxing forum for a reason.

          I believe people should be able to objectively(Key word. As long as its OBJECTIVE) break down any possible fight of Pacquiao's that they question, similarly for Mayweather(Which people around here do on a daily basis).
          Of course anyone can breakdown and criticize any fighters fights. I am only saying that from a casual fans perspective, yeah, Pac's names are gonna stand out more so than the names on Floyd's. I'm just saying, the average guy is gonna be more familiar with the names on Pac's resume more than Floyd's....Hernandez? Who is that guy?...that is my drift

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          • B.U.R.N.E.R
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            #155
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            That would of been a better fight, I can say why he didn't fight Casa. But, at the end of the day Casa was the lineal champ. Was he the best at that weight-class I don't think so but he was the lineal champ....
            Wouldve been a good fight. Pac probably wins though.

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            • War Dinamita
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              #156
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              He is not and I am not saying he is. But, I will say this was you giving him criticism for taking those fights when you was picking those same fighters to beat him?
              Was Morales past his prime against Manny?

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              • STREET CLEANER
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                #157
                Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                again Pac one his first lineal title against a pure boxer (Sasakul).....and later beat Barrera who is a pure boxer. Marquez is also a pure boxer and had a damn good right hand.
                Don't know to much of Sasaku but Marquez is a counter puncher and Barrera from a technical brawler after the Jones fights and especially in the Hamed fight turned into a counterpuncher if pressed will brawl

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                  Diaz wasn't a weak champ. He wasn't the best but was top 5. Matter of a fact he beat the guy who dominated Casamayor (Santa Cruz)
                  That is true some people forget that when they mention Casa>Diaz. I can see why they wanted Casa. But, if Pac would of foight him they would of said Casa was shot. Because, he got a gift from Santa Cruz and then went life and death and had to score a come from behind KO. So if Pac would of fought Casa the whole Casa was shot would been thrown out there. Which would of hold water by the way. Diaz was not a bad choice as people make it out to be. But, was somebody like Nate Campbell a better fighter? Yes of course he was...

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                  • KILLA RIGHT
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Huros
                    because he wins. but if pac loses, thats a past prime right there





                    hes been to many wars too just like morales right?




                    so lets say erik beat pac in the rematch. will theres be a talk of erik being shot?

                    mosley has been KO right? morales has never been KO before pac did it right?

                    are you familair with the term hindsight bias?
                    well morales couldnt get up because he was dead at the weight more then anything. His legs were gone, which is why he went in their swinging balls out. It's not bias it's the truth. Mosley is the champ at 147 morales didnt have it anymore bro. Which is why he didnt want the fight at that weight. Roach said it he will be drained for the fight

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by California Love
                      Was Morales past his prime against Manny?
                      Yes he was and?
                      Last edited by jrosales13; 03-16-2010, 10:38 PM.

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