Why Does Manny Get a Pass for Cherry Picking Opponents?

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  • Khalid X
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    #71
    Originally posted by California Love
    Floyd Mayweather, SSM, and drug testing.

    You forgot Roach said SSM was too good for Manny last year?
    So you won't have any issues with Manny fighting Shane if the negotiations with Floyd fall through again?

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    • War Dinamita
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      #72
      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
      So you won't have any issues with Manny fighting Shane if the negotiations fall through again?
      Floyd is going to tax that ass and send Mosley to retirement.

      What's the point of fighting SSM after Floyd beats him? SSM will be damage goods after his fight with Floyd because Floyd will put on a boxing clinic against SSM.

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      • Tha_Greatest
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        #73
        Originally posted by Imhotep
        Its been shown that Floyd never ducked Margarito, numerous times.He would have agreed to fight Marg if Arum would have guaranteed Floyd 10 million for Cotto and 20 million for Oscar.


        And tzu ad a long layoff cause of injuries and never called out Floyd.ANd those other fighters you mention, Floyd did not duck them either.
        i do credit floyd for fighting ring legends like bruseles, burton, gatti, sosa, ndou, judah, the big show, mitshell, my sisters boyfreind, baldomir and the big show, this is a talented list, one of the greatest in boxing history, this is why floyd fans love him, because he fights only the very best losers in boxing, lol, nyahahahahahaha
        Last edited by Tha_Greatest; 03-16-2010, 09:20 PM.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #74
          Originally posted by Nike Phats
          Honestly, I'm curious. Around these boards other boxers are constantly bashed about cherry picking, but no one, Pac fan or otherwise can claim Team Pac has done any different from these fighters they claimed have taken the easy road?

          For example, Pac hardly gets any criticism for not fighting Mosely when his camp openly ducked him. I don't get it?

          Same for Raheem. Raheem dominates Erik Morales for 11 out of 12 rounds, and instead of fighting Raheem, Manny fights a shot Morales.

          You want to talk about cherry picking?

          By Roach's own admission DLH was a dead man walking whom no longer desired to fight when he was matched up against Manny. He was literally drained and dehydrated, and this came straight from the mouth of Pacs camp.

          Cotto? Again by team Pacs admission, Cotto was damaged goods who'd had his career ruined by Margarito. Did that stop them from fighting and hyping the fight? Nope.

          Hatton? Again, by Team Pacs own admission, he'd been ruined by Mayweather, and was coming off a fight where he'd been brutalized by Lazcano. They still fought him.

          Clottey? I'll give Manny credit for the fight, but everyone in boxing knew what was coming. Everyone expected Clottey to shell up and take hits, he was taylor made for Pacs style.

          Whoever cares to post the video evidence, please do.
          This is easy.

          Cotto beat Mosley, and was a Top Rank fighter. Easy fight to make against one of the best welterweights in the world at that time.

          Pacquiao was not at 135, he was at 130 and had an agreement to fight Morales before he lost to Raheem. Kind of like how Floyd fought Judah even after he lost to Baldomir. By the time Pac moved to 135 Raheem was nobody.

          Hatton was the best 140 pounder in the world. That isn't an opinion, it was a fact at that time.

          Clottey you simply can't hate on. A top 5 welterweight, a very big welterweight, and Pac dominated. No legit way to bring that down at all.

          De La Hoya made the call to Pac, Oscar was trying to cherry pick a much smaller man, not the other way around moron. It's not Pac's fault Oscar didn't come into the fight seriously enough and weight drained.

          Nice try.

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          • Biolink
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            #75
            Originally posted by mathed
            Floyd: Fought old De La Hoya after like 3 losses, Hatton above his best weight class of 140, Gatti was toast when he fought Floyd- destroyed from too many battles when he was prime, Baldomir was slower than a snail crossing the highway- champ yes but weakest guy to beat, JMM was 12 pounds heavier than he had ever been and still broke the contracted weight to have a further advantage.

            Names on Pac's resume blow the names of Floyd's resume out of the water no contest here
            They've fought the same exact people, minus Cotto and it's debatable whether or not Cotto was the same fighter(Freddie Roach doesn't think so).

            Hatton's own damn camp said that they weren't ready for Mayweather at 140(They were ringside when he fought Gatti IIRC). They conceded to move up to 147, especially since there was no way Floyd was gonna drop 14 pounds and come down to 140, after he was at 154.

            That said whom do people consider Pacquiao's biggest win?

            I always though it was someone he fought at Featherweight.

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            • Iceta Lives
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              #76
              I don't understand the double standards either to be honest with you. We just saw what a **** fighter David Diaz was when he lost to Soto. And are you trying to tell me that Hatton is better than Alexander and Bradley? Are you trying to tell me that Cotto and Clottey are better than Mayweather and Mosley at this stage? Pacquiao has fought all of the guys he fought because they best accomodate his style of fighting. It's not hate, it's just facts.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #77
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                This is easy.

                Cotto beat Mosley, and was a Top Rank fighter. Easy fight to make against one of the best welterweights in the world at that time.

                Pacquiao was not at 135, he was at 130 and had an agreement to fight Morales before he lost to Raheem. Kind of like how Floyd fought Judah even after he lost to Baldomir. By the time Pac moved to 135 Raheem was nobody.

                Hatton was the best 140 pounder in the world. That isn't an opinion, it was a fact at that time.

                Clottey you simply can't hate on. A top 5 welterweight, a very big welterweight, and Pac dominated. No legit way to bring that down at all.

                De La Hoya made the call to Pac, Oscar was trying to cherry pick a much smaller man, not the other way around moron. It's not Pac's fault Oscar didn't come into the fight seriously enough and weight drained.

                Nice try.
                Bro everybody can be criticized. Pac is not above the law.

                Casamayor he shouldve fought instead of Diaz.

                Mosley he shouldve fought over Cotto.

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                • Khalid X
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                  #78
                  I have asked this same question and non of you flamers, who claims Pac cherry picks, has ever answered this:

                  Who was better at
                  112 when pac chose to fight Sasukul
                  122 when pac chose to fight ledbawa
                  126 when Pac chose to fight Barrera
                  130 when Pac chose to fight Marquez and Morales
                  140 when Pac chose to fight Hatton
                  147 when Pac chose to fight Cotto

                  For those claiming he cherry picked, please answer any of the following.

                  *hears nothing but crickets*

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                  • rskumm21
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    So you won't have any issues with Manny fighting Shane if the negotiations with Floyd fall through again?
                    I wouldn't. That's if Shane beats Mayweather. But if not, Pac needs to make the fight happen Floyd.

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                    • whirlwind
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
                      video evidnce is not needed mate, youve hit the nail on the head.

                      1. Hoya - not made 147lbs for over 7 years
                      2. Cotto - pac/roach demanded he come in at 145lbs, beat up by marg, tough fight with clottey
                      3. Clottey - doesnt throw anything,plays into pacs hands


                      1. Pac just fought 1 time at 135 that time and too small back then, no prior experienced or whatsoever fighting at 140 let alone at 147 now Pac should fought Oscar 154 right?
                      2. Pac just fought Hatton at 140 and just weighed in 138 in that fight. Pac moved up 7lbs above and Cotto moved down just 1lb below on his last fight weighed in. Cotto agreed said he usually weighed in this weight. Fair enough than what welterweight Floyd did to old lightweight JMM right?
                      3. Besides Clottey who is the next best welterweight Pac should fight then? Berto (Haiti earthquake), Mosley and Floyd fighting each other, Margarito suspended, Cotto?

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