Mayweather v Mosley : How can Mosley beat Mayweather realistically..

[nailzfan]

The only way Mosley wins is to call up Doc Brown, hop in the DeLorean and go 88 mph.

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The only way Mosley wins is to call up Doc Brown, hop in the DeLorean and go 88 mph.

Hahaha GreenK! or borrows Hopkins time machine.

[Clyde Barrow]

Big if, but Shane can win if he cuts off the ring. He has no choice but to be in PBF's chest all fight long. He needs to pound to the body first before trying the chin. Concentrate on the left hook. Landing or not, throw jabs to keep PBF parrying, then unleash the big shots. Richardson needs to liven Shane's legs/feet if they're going to win.

[FLY TY]

Then can you have seen how Mosley could have beaten Margarito amidst all the boos?

How can you not even imagine the possibility of a very hungry fighter, an old man with his back against the wall, defying your laws of logic?

Fact is, it has happened before, don`t blind yourself to this fact.

I agree. Most peeps thought Tyson was gonna destroy Holyfield (I predicted a holyfield win) but he never. You can say this that and the next thing about the fight, but i for one will wait till they step in the ring together.Im just glad Floyd eventually signed the contract.

yea, we know there have been upsets before.....that's why the ball games are played out, and the fights are fought till there's a winner.

REALISITICLY, an upset is a possibility, but the TS asked how can shane beat floyd realisticly?

other than pointing out there have been upsets before, i haven't seen anybody answer the question.....other than the guy who says shane has a "puncher's chance," which is the same thing i said.

[gqjohnb]

Then can you have seen how Mosley could have beaten Margarito amidst all the boos?

How can you not even imagine the possibility of a very hungry fighter, an old man with his back against the wall, defying your laws of logic?

Fact is, it has happened before, don`t blind yourself to this fact.

I actually called mosley to whoop margarito because Margarito is 80% hype to me, is one dimensional, and just not a special fighter and Floyd has a quality about him that makes an upset like Roys KO's and Tyson's KO's very unlikely. Since seeing how Forrest and Winky handled Mosley I've come to the realization that shane is a boxer/brawler more towards the brawler side and I just never thought that style would be able to beat mayweather. Mosley isn't as well rounded a fighter as people make him out to be and that coupled with his age makes this a very unlikely win for him. I think some of you are overstating the factor of age for mosley though; while his reflexes have somewhat diminished he is still a very game mosley and not that far from where he was 8 years ago.

[IMDAZED]

I'll give it a shot.

You can say smart agression ect... but We know Mosleys there to be hit and countered, his physical presence is the only glaring factor; Which just makes him a bigger target IMO.

We know Mosley can be hit. We also know he can take a shot. Ok.

He's been inactive so long and 39 Years old with only so much left in the tank.

He won't have to worry about that too much facing a fighter who has had one fight in three years; a 12 round sparring session against an aged lightweight.

I think without the smokescreen/hype it's a shutout from Mayweather tagging him left and right all night long. I doubt a Mosely from 10 years ago could beat todays Mayweather.. the blueprint has been set and I expect no surprises come May 1st.

Floyd Mayweather couldn't shut out Oscar De La Hoya but you think he shuts out Shane? Right...

Btw I once thought Mosley had the best chance of beating Mayweather but I think that torch has been past down to Pacman who I didn't rate as beating Mayweather much but after Clottey I can see how a gameplan set by Roach could be executed.

What has Mosley done since for you to go from "best chance of beating Mayweather" to "getting shut out?" Beat up Margarito?

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Big if, but Shane can win if he cuts off the ring. He has no choice but to be in PBF's chest all fight long. He needs to pound to the body first before trying the chin. Concentrate on the left hook. Landing or not, throw jabs to keep PBF parrying, then unleash the big shots. Richardson needs to liven Shane's legs/feet if they're going to win.

This is a good game plan.

But IMO once they get in the ring, the Plan will be out the window, Mosley will find it hard to get in range without getting hit by the right. so he might resort to boxing Floyd much like Marquez & DLH who found success to an extent.

Mosley has to keep Floyd guessing because as soon as he gets in the pattern of coming forward hitting to the body is the time when he starts losing round after round until the bell rings for a Mayweather UD.

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What has Mosley done since for you to go from "best chance of beating Mayweather" to "getting shut out?" Beat up Margarito?

I've said many of what some posters here have said before when rooting for Mosley.

I considered Mosley having the best chance and Pacman having the 2nd best, but since switch around.

Because I said he has the best chance doesn't mean he wouldn't get beaten up, just that it would be more competitive than most boxers would bring.

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We know Floyd is bringing his Pot Shotting A-Game, tight defense, Clear UD mentality.

What can Shane do to counter this from the most skilled fighter on the planet?

Marg was getting UD against Cotto, Marg has lost Marge was found cheating.

15 mins before the fight he was caught, not the best mentality to go into a fight surely... overrated win even if it was a good performance by Mosley.

I also like both Margarito and Mosley btw.

[FLY TY]

This is a good game plan.

But IMO once they get in the ring, the Plan will be out the window, Mosley will find it hard to get in range without getting hit by the right. so he might resort to boxing Floyd much like Marquez & DLH who found success to an extent.

Mosley has to keep Floyd guessing because as soon as he gets in the pattern of coming forward hitting to the body is the time when he starts losing round after round until the bell rings for a Mayweather UD.

IMO, this will be a very difficult fight for shane....not saying it'll be easy for floyd, but many ppl think it'll be tough for him.

i think it'll be easier for floyd than ppl think, and much more difficult for shane. watching the judah fight (and not comparing the style to mosley's) but i saw that once judah's speed began giving floyd problems, floyd decided to get closer, and once he wore zab down and neutralized the speed, floyd backed off, boxed, and landed first.

floyd likes to fight at a distance when his speed can really be used to his advantage solely. mosley is fast, but not as fast as he used to be, so i don't think his speed will cause mayweather too many problems....hence, floyd will want the fight "outside," where his speed can be utilized to the fullest.

i think mosley's best chance may be to keep the fight in a "phonebooth" so to speak. he has to make it ugly, and do a bit of holding when he gets off, not allowing mayweather to get off. chasing floyd, or trying to overwhelm him, will onl play into mayweather's hands, b/c he'll simply counter the slower fighter all night, and move away just in time to be able to keep the fight at a distance.

oscar had some success b/c he has a great jab, which used properly, can nullify movement and speed. i don't view shane as being a great jabber, so unless he develops one over the next 6 weeks, that plan is out the window.

marquez had no success with floyd. it got to the point where floyd just stood in front of him, hands down, knowing marquez was too slow, and he was fast enough to elude marquez whenever he threw.

so IMO, shane has to keep it close, and do a lot of holding, and i know ppl won't like that, but shane has to make it an "ugly" fight, if he has any chance of beating the pretty boy.

[IMDAZED]

I've said many of what some posters here have said before when rooting for Mosley.

I considered Mosley having the best chance and Pacman having the 2nd best, but since switch around.

Because I said he has the best chance doesn't mean he wouldn't get beaten up, just that it would be more competitive than most boxers would bring.

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We know Floyd is bringing his Pot Shotting A-Game, tight defense, Clear UD mentality.

What can Shane do to counter this from the most skilled fighter on the planet?

Marg was getting UD against Cotto, Marg has lost Marge was found cheating.

15 mins before the fight he was caught, not the best mentality to go into a fight surely... overrated win even if it was a good performance by Mosley.

I also like both Margarito and Mosley btw.

How do we know Floyd is bringing his A-game? He is 33, more inactive than Shane and hasn't fought a legit welter in four years, let alone one as good as Shane. You're basing quite a bit on a Floyd that you haven't seen.