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  • Originally posted by millcitymauler View Post
    ...another objective analyst
    Hey you can read my post I try not to be bias.But I don't want to hear a younger Shane could have beatin Mayweather but not this version.If Mayweather wins he deserve's the credit cause shane is going to highly motivated.No?If Shane win's the same thing he deserve's all the credit no excuse's.

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    • I'm disappointed I didn't see Mayweather / Pacquio yesterday, as the Clottey fight was boring. Now, I'll start and admit that I am Filipino BUT I'm not here to just take sides. I'm a boxing fan and honestly see holes in BOTH fighters excuses.

      The fact is it comes down to thier egos. BOTH fighters think they are the TOP DOG, and its a privellege for the other to step into the ring with them. They BOTH think they have the right to make the other jump through hoops. And honestly, I do believe they are also both scared of eachother.

      The fact really are is there really any true evidence of PAC using PED's? He has never had a hint of this possiblity and this idea has never come up until Mayweather randomly said he believes that PAC is on PED's.

      That being said, It sucks being accused and unfortunately in sports at the moment your guilty until proven innocent.

      I totally agree with Mayweather wanting to clean up the sport. I believe its great for the boxers and sport as a whole. BUT why make it a clause NOW? I the biggest fight of his career? If he truely believes that HE (Mayweather) is the ambassador of boxing and its HIS job to clean it up... why is it just a clause in his big fights?

      Why has he not presented a new policy to the NASC?? Why isn't he going straight to the top and saying LET's as a whole find a new way to make our sport better. Instead, he's saying.. okay.. you, you and you... take the test. But forget about everyone else.

      As we all know, new policies take time... but I applaud him on wanting more stringent testing. But make it broad, make it with the people who are in the position to change it, the NSAC.

      As far as PAC's refusal for the random blood test... Fine, I can accept his belief that it makes him weak. So agree to the 14days... and give blood right after the fight as per regulations... give all the urine asked of you and get it over with.

      Catch weights - ALL BS after last night. Clottey was in at 147. So 147 it should be... IF over that, then the penalties... but no over 145 BS penalties. Welterweight is 147, so let it be.

      To many excuses and headgames. Be the ambassadors and FIGHT for the FANs of the sport. Not to retain a "0", not to keep a title. I would still respect BOTH fighters regardless of outcome, as they are the TWO best at the moment.

      And honestly, win lose or draw... FOR EITHER FIGHTER - it can setup for and epic rematch/trilogy of some of the best boxing we could see.

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      • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
        Hey you can read my post I try not to be bias.But I don't want to hear a younger Shane could have beatin Mayweather but not this version.If Mayweather wins he deserve's the credit cause shane is going to highly motivated.No?If Shane win's the same thing he deserve's all the credit no excuse's.
        Agreed...Whoever wins deserves all of the credit and accolades, and shouldn't be tarnished with age or mileage arguments .I'm talking about his style and mental disposition. Go back and watch SSM-ODH I, and tell me you've seen that guy since. If so, which fight?

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        • Originally posted by JCairo View Post
          its unfortunate, but in the sports world, once you're under su****ion it's up to you prove your innocence when it comes to steroids. yes he has never failed a test, but it's not enough to say your clean in the eyes of the media and some fans. and if the commission refuses to pay for such extensive testing, take it out of the fighters purses, or take it out of mayweather's purse for demanding it. i'm a huge pacquiao fan, but if he doesnt understand this political move by mayweather makes him look bad, then he's not smart enough to go into politics. just take the tests. its supposed to be random, so it can be urine or blood testing at any point in time. they wont be testing you everyday or to the point where they drain you. and the point of this whole thing is mayweather is willing to do the same thing. michael phelps was tested after every race, granted we dont know what method urine or blood, but he performed fine. here's the compromise: mayweather pays for the testing out his own purse, pacquiao take the damn tests!

          Sounds fair to me.

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          • Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
            nothing new in other words.. if u wanna fight floyd take the tests, if not u dont really want to fight him cuz thats what u will have to do. not just pacquiao all of floyds future oponents.

            so its up to them, anytime a fighter turns down the biggest fight of his life cuz he doesnt want to get tested for steroids it looks su****ious. but after team pacquiaos long list of lame excuses, contradictions and exposed lies.. pac really looks bad if he doesnt take the tests.

            the whole "floyd isnt the commission" excuse is almost as lame as the other ones.

            floyd cant do something that helps the sport cuz "the commission makes the rules not the fighters", yet pac can do something that helps nobody but himself and make up new weightclasses whenever he damn well pleases and theres nothing wrong with that?

            all thats is is making him more comftorable, floyd is making it more safe for the fighters.

            doesnt make sense..

            Well said my dude. I second that.

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            • Do you have to be a ***** to be critical of Pac's career path here lately? How many times are we gonna hear this garbage of Roach saying that he wants the Mayweather fight when Mayweather hasn't even fought Mosley yet?

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              • Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post
                Such a cop out! That's the excuse they decided to stick with after nobody bought the "scared of needles" or "makes Pacquiao weak" bull****.

                Regardless of who makes the demand, how can anybody justify not wanting a stricter drug testing policy, when the one that is currently in place has already proven to be majorly flawed?

                Get ready for the "Great" Manny Pacquiao vs Margarito in the fall.
                There are cetain rules to be followed set by the NSAC that governs the fight, and Floyd demand was not one of the rules! Why not stick to this existing rules to fight?

                And yes, "Get ready for the "Great" Manny Pacquiao vs Margarito in the fall and "Invincible" Floyd vs Mathew Hatton", or Ivan Calderon?

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                • Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
                  Joshua is tougher than Floyd when it comes to defense.. but you will not win if you did defense all night! Floyd is more easier to crack his defense than Joshua and Pac could assert his offense agaisnt Floyd! Floyd counter punches is not enough to win the fight! JMM failed to Pac twice much more that pac improved all his arsenals!
                  Marquez is not Mayweather.JMM counter punches but he is easy to be hit.Mayweather is not at all easy to be hit.Clottey simply doesn't do enough in his fights to win plain n simple.When Clottey did throw against Manny he landed.Clottey just doesn't move his legs or throw enough punches.Like the saying goes,,,"Styles make fights".

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                  • Why won't Freddie and Manny just agree to the random tests?
                    They should know that Floyd is not going to drop his demands
                    for Manny to take the tests so why continue to say that you
                    want to fight Floyd?

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                    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      Why won't Freddie and Manny just agree to the random tests?
                      They should know that Floyd is not going to drop his demands
                      for Manny to take the tests so why continue to say that you
                      want to fight Floyd?
                      because this way they let the public know that they want the fight to happen and that floyd's craziness wont run the sport he's a fight he doesnt own boxing.

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