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  • PAKYO
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    #11
    *****s always TWIST FACTS and make it seem like they're unbiased.

    That's the root of the problem here.

    I rarely hands out Karma points but i'll give you one now.

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    • Travdog
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      #12
      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
      Floyd also has a controversial victory over Oscar delahoya and never rematched.

      Pacquiao offered an immediate rematch to Marquez which i believe Marquez would have won decisively if they had agreed but team Marquez declined because they wanted 50/50. instead he fights Chris John in indonesia for 30k and loses. removing all demand for a pacquiao rematch until pacquiao knocked out morales.
      What was wrong with Marquez getting 50/50 with Pac? Why would Pac not honor that? That was the fight of the year

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        #13
        Originally posted by Travdog
        What was wrong with Marquez getting 50/50 with Pac? Why would Pac not honor that? That was the fight of the year
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        • Travdog
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          #14
          Originally posted by Chups
          Another interesting thing is that Pac actually has a disputed draw, rematches the fighter and wins. And another thing is Pac lost to a certain legendary fighter rematches him twice and wins twice. So really, Pac has done it more times than Floyd did.

          I gave him credit for rematching Morales. Albeit it had to be with Reyes Gloves because originally he lost because he didn't have Reyes gloves now it's because blood was drawn.

          Took him four years to get back in the ring with Marquez and avoided him like the Plague after he got a disputed win in which he got hurt and bloodied.

          If he can fight Morales for a third time after knocking him out why not fight Marquez a third time?

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          • shadeyfizzle
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            #15
            Originally posted by Travdog
            What was wrong with Marquez getting 50/50 with Pac? Why would Pac not honor that? That was the fight of the year
            This was back when Marquez was a purely defensive fighter that alot of fans deemed boring. They had offered him $750,000 for an immediate rematch. Dont remember how much lower than 50/50 it was but for sure it would have been Marquez's biggest payday to date regardless.

            Basically what it came down to wasnt ducking or dodging or outpricing but simply a bad business decision by Nacho Beristain to decline it and then fight Chris John in his backyard for a mere 30k.

            So since Marquez lost to John and Pacquiao lost to Morales there really was no demand for the rematch until a couple of years later.

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            • Travdog
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              #16
              Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
              This was back when Marquez was a purely defensive fighter that alot of fans deemed boring. They had offered him $750,000 for an immediate rematch. Dont remember how much lower than 50/50 it was but for sure it would have been Marquez's biggest payday to date regardless.

              Basically what it came down to wasnt ducking or dodging or outpricing but simply a bad business decision by Nacho Beristain to decline it and then fight Chris John in his backyard for a mere 30k.

              So since Marquez lost to John and Pacquiao lost to Morales there really was no demand for the rematch until a couple of years later.
              That's revionist history because people wanted that rematch badly first of all. Secondly the premise of my thread is about Manny the Warrior. A true warrior would say **** it, give him the 50/50 lemme show him I'm better than him, right?

              Marquez made the same mistake that Mosely made by fighting Wright and similar to what Manny did by fighting Clottey. Let's hope he does not lose.

              Third, De La Hoya vs Mayweather was not a disputed decision. Go watch that fight and see how Kacmarek was scoring the fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Travdog
                That's revionist history because people wanted that rematch badly first of all. Secondly the premise of my thread is about Manny the Warrior. A true warrior would say **** it, give him the 50/50 lemme show him I'm better than him, right?

                Marquez made the same mistake that Mosely made by fighting Wright and similar to what Manny did by fighting Clottey. Let's hope he does not lose.

                Third, De La Hoya vs Mayweather was not a disputed decision. Go watch that fight and see how Kacmarek was scoring the fight.
                the only revisionist history is from you pal. you were the one that made the thread saying stay away from *******/***** bull**** so i layed it out for you.

                There was demand for the rematch. The offer for the immediate rematch was made. it was declined by team marquez. both fighters lose their next fight. demand gone. it wasnt until a year and a half later when both fighters picked up big wins again that the rematch demand went up again.

                what's so hard to understand about that???

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                • PAKYO
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                  the only revisionist history is from you pal. you were the one that made the thread saying stay away from *******/***** bull**** so i layed it out for you.

                  There was demand for the rematch. The offer for the immediate rematch was made. it was declined by team marquez. both fighters lose their next fight. demand gone. it wasnt until a year and a half later when both fighters picked up big wins again that the rematch demand went up again.

                  what's so hard to understand about that???
                  There's an INTENTION NOT TO UNDERSTAND that part and just to push TS prejudiced views on anything that is not related to floyd.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                    the only revisionist history is from you pal. you were the one that made the thread saying stay away from *******/***** bull**** so i layed it out for you.

                    There was demand for the rematch. The offer for the immediate rematch was made. it was declined by team marquez. both fighters lose their next fight. demand gone. it wasnt until a year and a half later when both fighters picked up big wins again that the rematch demand went up again.

                    what's so hard to understand about that???
                    Shut up shadey. You are making too much sense. He is talking about Manny the warrior wherein the warrior is correlated on rematches. By virtue of that definition, Floyd should have been more of a warrior than Manny. I believe him.

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                    • PAKYO
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tesla_power
                      Shut up shadey. You are making too much sense. He is talking about Manny the warrior wherein the warrior is correlated on rematches. By virtue of that definition, Floyd should have been more of a warrior than Manny. I believe him.
                      Bravo.

                      TS should be happy now. hahahahha

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