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Boxing is all about styles, but aint no style is gonna beat PAC !!

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  • #41
    Originally posted by xxxboxfrank View Post
    A great jab and footwork, accuracy, and angles will beat pac man
    Originally posted by DeanoFlash View Post
    great jab and footwork would be nice to have but a good right hand beats Pacquiao anyday, hence Shane would commence to beating him like a dog....I'm telling you. Thats why Freddie wanted to make him come down to 140. Shane said he'd do 140 and take 40/60 to fight Pac and they turned THAT down smh.
    Why not say, "A great jab and footwork, accuracy and angles CAN beat pac man" instead of saying "WILL"...

    I will agree but again anything can happen in the ring. So far, no one has been able to do that to Pacquiao and perhaps Mayweather or Mosley CAN.

    This would be exciting to watch.

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    • #42
      Any fighter can be beaten. Pac has already lost, and he had a questionable win over Marquez.

      No fighter is unbeatable, period.

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      • #43
        The thread starter is even ******er than the man on his avatar looks. Dude looks like a straight up ******.

        Anyway, in case anyone was wondering, YES, when I said everyone can be beaten, that includes Floyd.

        So don't bother bringing that up.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
          Pac can be beaten... anyone can be beaten.

          It will take someone with the defense, speed and abillity of Floyd Mayweather, or the Height, reach, and work output of Paul Williams, though.

          Outside of those two fighters, I don't think anyone can beat him as of right now.
          Shane Mosley can beat Manny Pacquiao as well.

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          • #45
            He did have trouble with Marquez.

            It is fustrating when every punch you pull is being countered.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by soyotoyapex View Post
              *****s are really living in the past. Thats why they still thought Floyd is the best
              dude your a nut hugger, nothing you say can be taken seriously

              back is still beatable, by a counter puncher/boxer. when cotto stood up and boxed he was tagging pac.

              open you eyes

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Derranged View Post
                The thread starter is even ******er than the man on his avatar looks. Dude looks like a straight up ******.

                Anyway, in case anyone was wondering, YES, when I said everyone can be beaten, that includes Floyd.

                So don't bother bringing that up.
                But he is very adaptive fighter as well as cautious one. He wont take a punch that there is a risk.

                I think the newer generation of fighter should study and develop a way to beat him but right now this age of WW there is no one in particular.

                Many fighters go into the ring the same mind set and are not able to adapt or have other options.

                I think older school fighter are much better in dealing with Mayweather's style then newer ones. Most of the 80s fighter back then had two styles. Some even have all three boxing styles of boxer, brawler and pressure fighter.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by eazy_mas View Post
                  But he is very adaptive fighter as well as cautious one. He wont take a punch that there is a risk.

                  I think the newer generation of fighter should study and develop a way to beat him but right now this age of WW there is no one in particular.

                  Many fighters go into the ring the same mind set and are not able to adapt or have other options.

                  I think older school fighter are much better in dealing with Mayweather's style then newer ones. Most of the 80s fighter back then had two styles. Some even have all three boxing styles of boxer, brawler and pressure fighter.
                  BINGO!

                  I think that of all the fighters I have seen (though I used to watch from the late 70s till the 90s (stopped there) and only to be resuscitated by Pacquiao...Pacquiao has improved tremendously, learned a lot, improved a lot and adapted good working habits and style in a very short time.

                  This is the key to any fight.

                  Who can adapt/change and execute techniques flawlessly.

                  Mayweather has been on a very high level of boxing for a while but I don't see him improving, instead his offense have dropped a tad or two. But having said that, he is still a force to be reckoned with.

                  Mosley is still a formidable bruising brawler/boxer type of a fighter and don't know if he really digressed as much over time. Obviously he has gotten older but he still is sharp from the Margarito fight.

                  And so with Pacquiao, not to be a "nut-hugger" but I haven't seen anyone who has transformed himself and scarily in the last 3 years! And thus his style has evolved and continue to evolved into a relatively more complete fighter than his ole' RIGHT JAB-STRAIGHT LEFT CROSS fighter.

                  If anything, his footwork has gotten better in his lateral movement most specially moving to the his left. He is a master at moving to his right and underneath to counter with left/right combo from weird angles and now with tremendous strength.

                  But if anything I would love him to fight Mayweather as a master defender. I would love to see how Pacquiao would solve the ever-mind-boggling defense of Mayweather's shoulder roll (susceptible against southpaws), fades, bob and weaves.

                  Mayweather's lunging left hooks leads are formidable as well as his right crosses (seemingly his favorite). This right cross would give Pacquiao some fits and thrown from a very defensive position it would be very hard to defend.

                  And so against Mayweather, Pacquiao would have to:

                  • cut off the angle
                  • beat Mayweather with his lateral footwork to his left
                  • body punches
                  • and well timed counters

                  But Pacquiao would have to use his LEFT CROSSes and LEFT HOOKS/UPPERCUT in a very well timed manner. Footworks would do wonders opening it up as well as feints.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SkilledB View Post
                    dude your a nut hugger, nothing you say can be taken seriously

                    back is still beatable, by a counter puncher/boxer. when cotto stood up and boxed he was tagging pac.

                    open you eyes
                    There's some validity to what he said. The past shows a different story with Pacquiao, he vastly improved in the last 4 years while Mayweather stayed the same mastery of defense.

                    But if there is anything, Mayweather isn't "improving" anymore from his glorious past but inching towards downhill.

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                    • #50
                      counterpunching style was trouble for pac

                      I think runners can go 12 rounds with pac

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