Pacquiao vs. Cotto II at 154 is a disgrace!!!!

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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Nobody counts the diamond as a title for Pac. Is just as meaningful as the damn interim belt that P-Will has. Everybody counts the WBO belt he won from Cotto not the diamond belt.
    Thats because Cotto decided to put the WBO belt on the line had he not they wouldve counted the diamond belt.


    Again if Martinez beats Pavlik. There is a great chance that he will drop his WBC belt and campaign at MW...
    Theres a chance albeit a very slim one. Hes too small for 160 He'll drop back down. No point in staying there. There are no money fights and 154 has the better competition. Who is he gonna fight bum mandatories? Strum in Germany? Hes 35 years old hes only taking big fights.

    Dzinziruk is an option but at this stage there is no way of knowing if he is better than Foreman... Since we have not seen Dzinziruk in over a year.
    True. He should have a tune up and be on his way to some fights.

    What point did I forget? I don't care if the fight was at 145, 147, 154, it don't matter Pac was going to win that fight regardless. I don't agree with the rematch cuz of that. What my point is that for everybody who thinks Pac won that fight cuz Cotto was drained at 145, when they make the Cotto comparison of being drained as Oscar being drained. Then you should not have a problem with this rematch at 154.
    Why are you acting like Pac didnt beat the **** out of him. He finished Cotto man. Its not just the weight. Marg took something out of him. Like I said if Cotto wasnt beaten to a pulp by Pac you would have a point but he already took a beating. I have a problem with this fight and I see you do too. Good. Its a joke.



    Is like which is it? Did Pac win because he is the greater fighter period or did he win because Cotto was drained?

    Pac won because he was faster and stronger and better. Cotto not being allowed to weigh 147 pounds. Played a factor OR Pac WOULD NOT had asked for it. 2 Pounds is drained. I never said that. But he wasnt allowed to weigh the limit. That counts for something. Also Marg beat him half to death 2 fights prior. Inbetween that he went life and death with Clottey.

    And, if Cotto beats Foreman you can't even say now that Cotto is damaged goods. So that excuse is out the window also...
    How? Read the above. Hes done. Him beating Foreman means nothing. And even if he KO'd Foreman in the first round. This should be the LAST fight Pac or his fans should want. Its a disgrace. Mosley if he wins, Mayweather, Martinez, Dzinziruk, Berto, Bradley, Alexander there are oyther fights out there that will be much more competettive then Cotto again.

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      #42
      Originally posted by S A M U R A I
      They know deep inside that Cotto was not drained one bit though. I get sick of those who pretend to be disgusted at the 145 catchweight. Bunch of drama queens.

      Cotto even came out and said 145 is the weight they aim to make for all of his fights, plus he felt great at the weight.

      Bottom line though: Nobody truly believes 2 pounds would have made any difference to the outcome at all.
      yeah but they need an excuse so that they can make their hero look better. no one was crying weight drained b4 the fight

      every goddamn poster agreed that there would be no excuses to the outcome and that cotto looked in the best shape of his life

      but thats life and excuses will always happen

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        #43
        why do you make threads about unconfirmed rumors?

        first numerous threads about su****ions on pacquiao being on roids, reworded in hundreds of ways, now this.

        if this was actually confirmed, then this thread would actually be useful.

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          #44
          I loved the first fight, and I'd love to see them go at it again. Theres no point in the rematch, but im sure like the first fight it would be exciting.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            aren't you *****sexuals complaining that cotto was weight drained and that fighter of the decade manny pacquiao had to fight him at a catchweight?
            Originally posted by Wangler Jr
            Exactly

            i really dont get their logic
            Originally posted by S A M U R A I
            Damn straight. In a way I wish Oscar and Pacquiao would rematch at 154, cause it doesn't matter what weight Oscar is IMO, he gets annihilated exactly the same way.
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            That is how I feel too. Is a bull**** ass fight. But, if you giving excuses on why Pac won. Then you should have no problem with this fight.
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            154, 160 it don't matter Pac would whoop his ass. That is another rematch that all the people who use that drained excuse should not have a problem... But, they use whatever want to cover their agenda...
            Originally posted by Wangler Jr
            exactly these guys are just talking out their ass

            i wish pac-oscar did happen at 154 because i am damn tired of everyone discrediting pac with this weight drained bull****
            Originally posted by Wangler Jr
            yeah i dont see why they are arguing the fight

            they need reassurance pac is great because they believe he has fought handicap fighters only so why not want to watch it

            personally id rather he fight floyd or mosley but these weightdrained theorist should have no problem with a cotto rematch
            Yall missing the point. You are forgetting that Pac did **** him up already. If he fought Pac and dint take a scarcth and it was a technical fight youd have a case but he got the hell beat out of him. This should been talked about BEFORE he ****ed him up.

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              #46
              Originally posted by adobostreak
              why do you make threads about unconfirmed rumors?

              first numerous threads about su****ions on pacquiao being on roids, reworded in hundreds of ways, now this.

              if this was actually confirmed, then this thread would actually be useful.
              I dont want hear that **** from anybody on this forum. You made 1 Million Matt Hatton threads regarding Floyd. So plese get off the high horse.

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              • adobostreak
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                #47
                and the options, are extreme. bull**** or legacy?

                are those the only categories fights fall in, nowadays?

                i voted the first option since its the closest thing to my opinion of this thread.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Yall missing the point. You are forgetting that Pac did **** him up already. If he fought Pac and dint take a scarcth and it was a technical fight youd have a case but he got the hell beat out of him. This should been talked about BEFORE he ****ed him up.
                  who cares if he ****ed him up burner

                  he couldnt do that unless cotto was weight drained right?


                  hahahahaha

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    he wasnt allowed to weigh the limit. That counts for something.

                    they why don't you want to see the rematch? let's remove all doubt.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      I dont want hear that **** from anybody on this forum. You made 1 Million Matt Hatton threads regarding Floyd. So plese get off the high horse.
                      yeah but we had proof when that **** went down

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