Pacquiao vs. Cotto II at 154 is a disgrace!!!!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

so you're saying a rematch should happen to remove all doubt

Um no. He was already destroyed. That was a brutal beating.

[jrosales13]

Thats because Cotto decided to put the WBO belt on the line had he not they wouldve counted the diamond belt.

Nobody would of counted the diamond, people barely count the IBO belt they will not count no damn diamond belt, the diamond belt was like a trophy no damn realy championship belt. That is why there is no rankings for the diamond because it is not a real belt. People count Ring belts and lineal championship but the not the diamond belt.

Theres a chance albeit a very slim one. Hes too small for 160 He'll drop back down. No point in staying there. There are no money fights and 154 has the better competition. Who is he gonna fight bum mandatories? Strum in Germany? Hes 35 years old hes only taking big fights.


True. He should have a tune up and be on his way to some fights.

A Sturm fight in Germany would give Martinez more money then any fight in the U.S that is not against Floyd or Pac. If Martinez there is a great chance that he campaigns at MW... I don't know why you think that he is too small for 160. It makes no sense...

Why are you acting like Pac didnt beat the **** out of him. He finished Cotto man. Its not just the weight. Marg took something out of him. Like I said if Cotto wasnt beaten to a pulp by Pac you would have a point but he already took a beating. I have a problem with this fight and I see you do too. Good. Its a joke.

How I am not acting like it? I have said that 145, 147, 154 Pac would beaten him and it wouldn't matter. That is why I don't agree with the rematch. But, that is not my point. I guess my point flew over your head but I will make it again hopefully you get it...

Pac won because he was faster and stronger and better. Cotto not being allowed to weigh 147 pounds. Played a factor OR Pac WOULD NOT had asked for it. 2 Pounds is drained. I never said that. But he wasnt allowed to weigh the limit. That counts for something. Also Marg beat him half to death 2 fights prior. Inbetween that he went life and death with Clottey.

If Pac won because he faster, stronger, and better then give him credit then. But, you have told me numerous times that you do not give him credit. Being drained is one argument that you have used. And, when I made the comment of Cotto saying he felt great. You cameback with saying Oscar said the same thing. Insinuating that Cotto was drained he didn't feel great. So if the reason that Pac won was cuz Cotto was drained then you should not have a problem with this fight

How? Read the above. Hes done. Him beating Foreman means nothing. And even if he KO'd Foreman in the first round. This should be the LAST fight Pac or his fans should want. Its a disgrace. Mosley if he wins, Mayweather, Martinez, Dzinziruk, Berto, Bradley, Alexander there are oyther fights out there that will be much more competettive then Cotto again.

Another excuse you throw out there is that Cotto is damaged goods. Foreman is not a bad fighter. He is not even the weakest champ in the division. Foreman holds every physical advantage against Cotto. IF and is a big IF Cotto wins you can not say Cotto is damaged goods at all...

So that would prove he is not damaged goods, and it would be at 154 so the drained excuses will be out the window. Then you should not have a problem with this rematch.

BTW, who do have winning the Cotto-Foreman fight?

[-Antonio-]

You and I both know this fight will never happen so why even waste your time?

[DeanoFlash]

Arum is too old for this nonsense....like seriously you can't take that money to the grave, just being honest

[ИATAS]

You and I both know this fight will never happen so why even waste your time?

On top of that, I'm really leaning towards Foreman beating Cotto. Stylewise Foreman is all wrong for Cotto. He's 5'11 and has a 72" reach and he's a good boxer. Cotto is not going to be able to chop foreman down like he can against guys his own size that stand in front of him. Foreman is winning this fight!

[Pullcounter]

Um no. He was already destroyed. That was a brutal beating.

because of the 2 pounds right?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Nobody would of counted the diamond, people barely count the IBO belt they will not count no damn diamond belt, the diamond belt was like a trophy no damn realy championship belt. That is why there is no rankings for the diamond because it is not a real belt. People count Ring belts and lineal championship but the not the diamond belt.




A Sturm fight in Germany would give Martinez more money then any fight in the U.S that is not against Floyd or Pac. If Martinez there is a great chance that he campaigns at MW... I don't know why you think that he is too small for 160. It makes no sense...




How I am not acting like it? I have said that 145, 147, 154 Pac would beaten him and it wouldn't matter. That is why I don't agree with the rematch. But, that is not my point. I guess my point flew over your head but I will make it again hopefully you get it...



If Pac won because he faster, stronger, and better then give him credit then. But, you have told me numerous times that you do not give him credit. Being drained is one argument that you have used. And, when I made the comment of Cotto saying he felt great. You cameback with saying Oscar said the same thing. Insinuating that Cotto was drained he didn't feel great. So if the reason that Pac won was cuz Cotto was drained then you should not have a problem with this fight



Another excuse you throw out there is that Cotto is damaged goods. Foreman is not a bad fighter. He is not even the weakest champ in the division. Foreman holds every physical advantage against Cotto. IF and is a big IF Cotto wins you can not say Cotto is damaged goods at all...

So that would prove he is not damaged goods, and it would be at 154 so the drained excuses will be out the window. Then you should not have a problem with this rematch.

BTW, who do have winning the Cotto-Foreman fight?

I have Foreman winning. I think Foreman is a terrible fighter.I just think Cotto is done though. If he beats Foreman it will mean Foreman sucks. No one should lose to a shot Cotto.

[p4p-champ]

Mayweather vs Pacman is the only fight that should happen next...fuck the rest.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Mayweather vs Pacman is the only fight that should happen next...fuck the rest.

I with you 100%. If you notice its only Pac camp mentioning other fighters like Valero, Foreman, Cotto, Margarito, etc... Floyd is only mentioning Pac.

[soyotoyapex]

Cotto beats pwill and martinez @ 154