Lennox Lewis

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So those two fights where he lost his title(s) weren't big fights?

The first fights proved Lennox's chin was pure glass. The second fights he simply beat guys he never should've lost to in the first place (if he was truly as good as you claim.)



That is your opinion.

Understand?

I thought he was stopped prematurely against McCall. The Rahman fight was not a big fight, he didnt train hard and didnt acclimatise to South Africa like he should've. I agree, he should've never lost and it was his own fault. But that doesnt take away from his talent.

It seems pretty clear. Douglas is looking at the referee and waiting out the count before he gets up. Smart move.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Exactly, the second fight proved that he was KTFO'd by a bum!

Many fighters in history have got complacent and overlooked guys in front of them who were perceived as lesser fighters. James Toney is a prime example. Chris Eubank is another. Erik Morales against Raheem. Juanma Lopez against Mtagwa. Tyson against Douglas. The list goes on. The consequences of doing that in the HW division are also far riskier.

[Shazam!]

McCall and Rahman's punches shouldn't have been able to get through but once they did, they would have knocked out ANYONE.

To say Lewis has a glass chin is ******. Anyone who saw the shots that Lewis took against Mercer will know that. And how many fighters can you name who went 32 rounds with Holyfield and Tyson without ever looking close to being knocked out. Look at how the big hitting Klitschko's shots just made him come back angrier. Lewis was a beast.

By the way, someone was questioning his nationality? Who cares? The fact is, he is an all-time great fighter. Let's not forget.

If you really want to know, he's an east London boy (that's London, England). Born and bred. Not only was he born in England, but he's spent most of his life here.

[Juuza]

And how many fighters can you name who went 32 rounds with Holyfield and Tyson without ever looking close to being knocked out.

Stop bringing the names of Holyfield who was too old at the time and specially Tyson who was fat out of shape and a drug addict at the time,the same Tyson who got Koed by Williams and Mcbride.
Even Manny Steward said that at that point Tyson was completely shot bellow Lennox Lewis's sparring partners.
Manny also said that young Mike Tyson was the most devastating puncher he has ever seen and that he would have beaten Lewis.The full article is in sports illustrated.You can see a few quotes in the site SecondsOut.com written by Thomas Hauser.
Ruiz defeated old Holyfield and knock him down.

[Holtol]

McCall and Rahman's punches shouldn't have been able to get through but once they did, they would have knocked out ANYONE.

To say Lewis has a glass chin is ******. Anyone who saw the shots that Lewis took against Mercer will know that. And how many fighters can you name who went 32 rounds with Holyfield and Tyson without ever looking close to being knocked out. Look at how the big hitting Klitschko's shots just made him come back angrier. Lewis was a beast.

By the way, someone was questioning his nationality? Who cares? The fact is, he is an all-time great fighter. Let's not forget.

If you really want to know, he's an east London boy (that's London, England). Born and bred. Not only was he born in England, but he's spent most of his life here.

12 to 23 he lived in Ontario, Boxed for Canada twice in the Olympics.

[musiol]

Stop bringing the names of Holyfield who was too old at the time and specially Tyson who was fat out of shape and a drug addict at the time,the same Tyson who got Koed by Williams and Mcbride.
Even Manny Steward said that at that point Tyson was completely shot bellow Lennox Lewis's sparring partners.
Manny also said that young Mike Tyson was the most devastating puncher he has ever seen and that he would have beaten Lewis.The full article is in sports illustrated.You can see a few quotes in the site SecondsOut.com written by Thomas Hauser.
Ruiz defeated old Holyfield and knock him down.

spot on comments lewis fought the best guys in the division when they were clearly in decline tyson was a bum basicly and holyfield had slowed right down

[-Lowkey-]

great thread lewis is a top 10 hw and would have a very good shot at beating any hw through history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_zqpQJcT8

check 4:15 lewis learnt how to deal with tyson as a kid during sparing with him i truly belive tyson never wanted the fight with lewis after this..

[Snopkins]

The first fights proved Lennox's chin was pure glass. The second fights he simply beat guys he never should've lost to in the first place (if he was truly as good as you claim.)

It proved nothing as Lewis has demonstrated a decent chin against top punchers.



Joe frazier's two crushing losses to George foreman proved that he always had a glass jaw as frazier never had the balls to step in the ring with a puncher and prove his chin against a puncher and spent his entire career ducking them.

[boxing_great]

this thread always comes up

[Schmerzen]

So he was knocked out in the 2nd round, in his prime, by a second rate journeyman?

I, and most other people, think his prime came after working with Steward for a couple years.

lennox prime was in 2000 in my opinion, after the 2 holyfield fights he clearly got better..