Lennox Lewis

[Shazam!]

Foreman also lost to Jimmy Young.

Foreman just had one style. Like Tyson, he was undone and didn't avenge his losses.

Now the Foreman comeback was nice but we all know he carefully picked his opponents until he had to fight Holyfield...a much smaller guy who beat him.

He got a lucky punch in on Moorer who was a solid heavyweight but by no means a great. There is absolutely no way Foreman would have lasted against guys like Lewis, Tyson or Bowe during that time.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Like I said, Douglas goes down at 4 seconds into that vid, gets up at 15 seconds.

The Tyson knockdown is irrelevant. Mike should've been celebrating in the dressing room by then.

And maybe Mike's life wouldn't have taken a downward spiral after that fight if the ref hadn't screwed up.

[Boxin']

Foreman also lost to Jimmy Young.

Foreman just had one style. Like Tyson, he was undone and didn't avenge his losses.

Now the Foreman comeback was nice but we all know he carefully picked his opponents until he had to fight Holyfield...a much smaller guy who beat him.

He got a lucky punch in on Moorer who was a solid heavyweight but by no means a great. There is absolutely no way Foreman would have lasted against guys like Lewis, Tyson or Bowe during that time.

Has Lewis ever proved himself against a great fighter in his prime?

[Boxin']

men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie!

[Jim Jeffries]

Lennox Lewis and Hasim Rahman were evenly matched?

I'll try this one more time. Read it s l o w l y.

Two hypothetical fighters, completely evenly matched. They fight two times. If they are evenly matched, you expect them to win one fight each. Who wins the first or second is irrelevant. A loss in the first is redeemed by a win in the second.

Now you take a world class fighter, who loses to a clubfighter. They then fight again. That loss isn't simply erased by a rematch. Not even close.

Sorry if this is over your head.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'll try this one more time. Read it s l o w l y.

Two hypothetical fighters, completely evenly matched. They fight two times. If they are evenly matched, you expect them to win one fight each. Who wins the first or second is irrelevant. A loss in the first is redeemed by a win in the second.

Now you take a world class fighter, who loses to a clubfighter. They then fight again. That loss isn't simply erased by a rematch. Not even close.

Sorry if this is over your head.

Never said it was "erased". But it proved the first fight was nothing more than a fluke.

[ChopperRead]

Fact is, a huge right from Lewis busted Klitschko's eye open and the referee had to stop the fight for Klitschko's safety. This was from a Lennox right hand. People like to forget that. If Klitschko had done the same to Lennox, then victory would have been his. But he didn't. A 37 year old Lewis beat the young, prime contender fair and square and retired with his pride...and importantly his brain, still in tact.

Klitschko should count himself lucky he never met prime Lewis.

Lewis should count himself "lucky" (though it was no accident) that he laced Vitali with the side of his glove and cut him and got out of the loss of his belt. And notice how anxious he was to fight Vitali again. Lewis held up the belt for a year and then when Vitali became his mandatory, he retired. Also, Vitali would have NEVER been KO'd by bums like Hasbeen Rahman and Crack Baby McCall. So let's not go overboard on the great Canadian fighter Lennox Lewis. He wasn't perfect by a long shot, and I remember many Amerians hating him and saying how boring he was back when he was fighting, especially after the Tua fight. Everyone looks better in retrospect.

[Boxin']

Lewis should count himself "lucky" (though it was no accident) that he laced Vitali with the side of his glove and cut him and got out of the loss of his belt. And notice how anxious he was to fight Vitali again. Lewis held up the belt for a year and then when Vitali became his mandatory, he retired. Also, Vitali would have NEVER been KO'd by bums like Hasbeen Rahman and Crack Baby McCall. So let's not go overboard on the great Canadian fighter Lennox Lewis. He wasn't perfect by a long shot, and I remember many Amerians hating him and saying how boring he was back when he was fighting, especially after the Tua fight. Everyone looks better in retrospect.

he's not canadian

[Dirk Diggler UK]

men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie!

What are you talking about???

[ChopperRead]

he's not canadian

He won a gold medal for Canada in the Olympics and he is a dual citizen, my friend, so he certainly is a Canadian. He learned to box in Kitchener, Ontario Canada and built a big place to live there, and still lives there a lot of the time. He owes his career in boxing to the training he got in Canada as even he will tell you.