Pacquiao went from 106 to 147. Floyd went from 106 to 154.

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As a professional Floyd started as a junior lightweight. As a professional Pacquiao started as a Flyweight. Floyd also lost a lot of things as he moved up, such as speed and definitely power. Believe it or not, Floyd was a very strong JLW, LW and JWW.

And look at how long it took Mayweather to move up. How many JLW title defenses did he make before he moved up to 135?

I'm not accusing Pacquiao of anything. I'm just explaining his reasoning (or at least what it seems like his reasoning is).

if you took a look at pacquiaos fights going back almost 2 years, pacquiao has had a fighting weight of about low to mid 140's. the only thing changed was the weight classes he fought in --> to lightweight, to jr welterweight, now welterweight.

now against clottey and almost 2 yrs and 3 divisions after having a fighting weight of low to mid 140's, pacquaio will probably have a fighting weight a few pounds more...say high 140's to low 150's...if manny weighs over 147, that will be the first time he will weigh more than that...i dont see anything abnormal with that.

compare that to floyd jr who probably weigh high 150's on fight nite, who prefer to keep his fighting weight a secret...

also, if you want to compare weights between floyd jr and pacquiao, compare both of them when they first started boxing , not when they turned pros...because pacquiao didnt have an amateur career that floyd jr had...floyd jr had almost 100 amateur fights to pacquiaos zero...so you have to compare when they both started boxing, amateur and/or pros...both started at 106...
floyd jr fought as high as 154, while manny only went as high as 147...so the rise in weight went quicker for floyd jr...could be steroids.

btw, floyd jr lost power? maybe because he has brittle hands...dont you think?

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its not aout the weight fool. its about whats happened as they went up in weight.

as floyd went up in weight, he lost things and had to alter his style, not to mention, he hasnt taken any punishment in his career really.

while pac went up in weight and gained, when he showed signs of slowing down before Diaz. dude has been in tons of wars

history shows as a fighter goes up in weight, especially at a certain age, they decline. why is pac the only freak of nature in the history of the sport? its called PEDs

are you blind and stupit mazdaru? its not that pacquiao is a freak...its because pacquiao now is being more of a boxer than a brawler of the past...now uses the right as well as his left...uses more foot movement and angles...and being able to throw punches from angles that may look like is off balance to you but not to pacquiao...that my friend has nothing to do with being a freak...its being smart...not only that, roach seems to put a good fight plan for pacs opponants...nothing freaky about that as well.

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the only reason why floyd brought up testing is b/c he obviously feels pac is legitimately on something.

if he didnt, he wouldnt have asked. dude isnt out trying to tarnish pacs legacy for the hell of it. he wouldnt want someone doing that **** to him. so its obvious, he feels pac is truly on something like many people have said and have been saying for years now

dude, it wasnt floyd jr who started the blood testing request...it was floyd sr...if it wasnt for sr, the blood testing wouldnt have had come up...from floyd sr, went to floyd jrs advisors, to team delahoya...to u know how it ended after that...yah yah, floyd jr is saying blood test or no fight...but the blood testing was not his idea....floyd jr is now just using it to make himself look like the good guy...such a really fake bro

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one out of the two is refusing more stringent PED screening for 99 bullshyt reasons.

I agree with this.

basically as Pacquiao moves up in weight and age gets better :/ maybe it's because he doesn't have to drain himself anymore or maybe its something else but its kind of weird but oh well

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[mazdaru]

dude, it wasnt floyd jr who started the blood testing request...it was floyd sr...if it wasnt for sr, the blood testing wouldnt have had come up...from floyd sr, went to floyd jrs advisors, to team delahoya...to u know how it ended after that...yah yah, floyd jr is saying blood test or no fight...but the blood testing was not his idea....floyd jr is now just using it to make himself look like the good guy...such a really fake bro

yep, ok guy

[mazdaru]

are you blind and stupit mazdaru? its not that pacquiao is a freak...its because pacquiao now is being more of a boxer than a brawler of the past...now uses the right as well as his left...uses more foot movement and angles...and being able to throw punches from angles that may look like is off balance to you but not to pacquiao...that my friend has nothing to do with being a freak...its being smart...not only that, roach seems to put a good fight plan for pacs opponants...nothing freaky about that as well.

read my post again

being smart? with the wars pac has been in? read my **** again

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for years now??? wtf are you talkin about?! GTFOH! you clearly dont know wtf youre talkin about.

yah thats what i thought too..."for years now?"
the only time the accusation came out was when floyd sr was the trainer for hatton less than a year ago...while 24/7 showed floyd sr acting like a clown, posing his steroid built muscles, and showing up late for his training session with hatton, pacquiao N roach had a real training session...
after pacquiao killed hatton, thats when floyd sr went on a accusation witch hunt...

"for a few years now people have being say that"?

dude, like 1toTHADOME said, you dont know wtf you are talking about

by the way, pacquiao beat hatton because pacquiao is a better fighter and roach was a way better trainer than floyd sr does not equate to steroids/PEDS/HGH

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floyd is on steriods

[PAKYO]

*****s just can't accept the truth that Pac is greater than their fraudulent god floydie.

I used to think floyd was one of the best until i woke up and seen the light, Floyd is actually a FRAUD.

[Bennett]

Floyd has declined a bit when he moved up in weight. While Pacman has improved

because floyd was outweighed for most of those, obviously except marquez. pac on the other hand was weighing 145 when he was at 130.