Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mosley Can't Get Mad at Mayweather

[ATL_Boxer]

Your logic is weird. You say Mosley is gettin jerked around by the biggest draw in boxing but yet Pac offers Clottey 90/10 split and that's ok? Ok Mayweather didn't make weight for the Marquez fight but when did he ever fail to make weight at 147? And then you say Mayweather didn't make weight because the fine wasn't big enough well then that's like saying Pacquiao could be on steroids because the testing isn't good enough and he can't be detected. So I fail to see your logic.

He signed a CONTRACT to come in at 144 at the highest. He didn't. Making weight isn't about divisions. It's about the numbers on the scale and coming in over the agreed upon weight is breaking the contract. If Cotto came in at 147 instead of 145 and Pac and Roach called off the fight as a result, Cotto is the one at fault. If they later rescheduled and imposed the same penalty they imposed on Mayweather, I couldn't be mad, even though I'm a huge Cotto fan because he broke the contract. The same way Mosley can't be mad the steroids situation is continuously brought up. He gave everyone a past action to reference. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Could Pac be on steroids? Yes. Could Mayweather be on steroids? Yes. Anyone could be on the juice, which is why I'm not worried about it. I don't concern myself with the "what ifs" of the world. You can what if about anything. How do you know May isn't suggesting testing because he's juiced his whole career and wants to make sure no one looks in his direction? How do you know he's not simply deflecting his own dirt onto Pac? You don't and neither do I. I would support Mayweather if he was taking action and not just talking. Why not go to the commission and hold some sort of hearing and present scientifically backed up reasons for testing in all of boxing? Why not present to the commission reasons for them changing the rules so that all fighters go through it, from the amateurs to the pros? That's what someone who truly cared would've done. I just think his reasons are hollow, and I'm not buying what he's selling.

[Rome-By-Ko]

it just seems like your trying to discredit mayweather. and leaning toward the ducking subject. which is totally false.

Listen man I love boxing love it.I got love for mayweather and love for pac and if they were fighting one another you and me would be on the same side.Cause i feel like mayweather would beat pac.But he is fighting mosley my fav fighter i have to go hard you understand i know money is talented but mosley is as well and i'm riding with him.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

lmfao **** funny thing is I might really need that number lol.I have one friend who is in to boxing so i lose money to him or he lose money to me at least i'm helping a homie ya dig.But he is a hugh mayweather fan so that's why i'm very good at arguing this subject lol.By the way who you got pav or martinez?

I got Sergio on this one. Kelly hasn't seen this level of comp since B-Hop. And Sergio hits harder than most give him credit for. Who you got?

[ATL_Boxer]

Mosley getting jerked around or squeezing more money out? Mosley is getting more for fighting Floyd than Pac is getting for Clottey. This is Shane's biggest payday of his career and also, you say a Bradley fight wouldn't be legit? Bradley wouldn't win but he is a undefeated champion and would bring it and be very tough. Marquez got his career biggest payday for the PBF fight then got an extra 600gs for May coming in 2 lbs over. I never heard Marquez complain one time.

You're logic is flawed. I never heard de la Hoya complain about Mosley juicing either. In fact, he brought him on as partner. Couldn't have cared too much to do business with him. Yet Mayweather is requiring Mosley to do random blood testing.You keep talking about money. Stop it. You sound like a gold digging groupie. Marquez sold himself out for a paycheck and now is trying to front like he has dignity with Amir Khan. They turned down that fight because "they were being treated like an opponent." Lol. Mayweather treated him the same way. So what's different? Nothing.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

this is a dumb statement---i've fought for years, and i know boxing styles like the back of my hand, and the way to beat floyd is outhinking him when it comes to timing your movement and punches and agression---i don't see mosley winning more than 3 rounds, if that---mosley can listen to oscar all he want, who really lost to floyd by ud---max kellerman said it best---9 rounds to 3 and the rounds oscar won, he barely won and outlanded floyd---oscar always predicts against floyd until he dominates the guy oscar picks to win by a landslide---and floyd will dominate shane---shane fights very stiff but he fights hard, and this will make it look like he is competing with floyd, but floyd fights well against guys who fight hard and throw many punches, because floyd uses their aggression against them--that's what he did to oscar, floyd cruised in that fight, and oscar fought very hard, and started to use his aggression against him, landing punchhes through his combos and offsetting oscar very well---shane fights like a robot, but he fights with confidence until he gets tagged consistently coz shane will leave himself open for hooks and jabs---and when shane tries to jab to floyd's body, he will get countered by floyd----coz when shane throws the jab to the body, his position is so bad that even the slowest punches has a great chance of landing over it---floyd will landand step away at the same time, only to reposition himself to land another punch that shane won't expect--and he will keep shane off balance and disrupt his timing--this is what floyd is the master of---shane will lose this fight bad---then manny is next to get another loss on his record---oscar will once again have to eat his words once his partner loses to floyd bad---and oscar will be 0 for 3 in predicting who will beat floyd---he was wrong with hatton, jmm, and will be wrong with shane also---oscar couldn't get the job done and gbp almost robbed floyd---we all know when oscar jabbed, he landed only a few of them, and lost confidence in it, only to explain that he didn't know why he stopped using it----this guy is a professional and turned pro before floyd did and couldn't explain why he stopped using the only punch that seemed to work for him that night----he always says he woulda coulda and shoulda did this and that in the fight with mayweather jr, but he didn't---because he wasn't skilled enough to beat floyd and neither is shane and neither is manny----and clottey---

oscar says he found it easy in the mayweather fight---but he lost, and the rounds he did lose, he lost one sidedly---he tired himself out and that's because floyd landed punches that tired oscar out and offset his rhythm enough to get himself more fatigued and move in directions he didn't want to move in--thus having to move more than he wanted to, and as soon as oscar dropped his guard for one second, he was nailed consistently by floyd, bucked by floyd, could have been knocked out in the 12th round when floyd staggered him, had floyd pushed the action more---oscar and hopkins can say what shane'll do all they want, floyd is going to dictate this fight and shane's movement--and he will be stronger than shane in this fight also, i truly believe floyd will hurt shane---he will throw more combos at shane, and we have to remember something about how floyd throws his punches---he throws them perfect, very sharp, form many angles, and while feinting---he counters while feinting, he lands jabs and hooks and right hand leads while feinting and i wouldn't be surprised if floyd turned southpaw on shane and hurts him when he does it---this is floyd's fight folks---shane is in for a long night as well as goldenboy promotions---wait and see---

Thank you my man. Thank you.

[Tweezy316]

Listen man I love boxing love it.I got love for mayweather and love for pac and if they were fighting one another you and me would be on the same side.Cause i feel like mayweather would beat pac.But he is fighting mosley my fav fighter i have to go hard you understand i know money is talented but mosley is as well and i'm riding with him.

That's good tho. We need more people to ride with Mosley and really think he can win. That way at the end of the day. After Mayweather beats that ass noone can say Mayweather cherry picked Mosley because half the people chose Mosley to win. It also makes for more ppv sales

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Mosley can and that's why everybody's gonna pay to see it.AS far as Cotto Marga's we never seen those fight's so it's all opinion but light year's ahead of fighter's he never fought is something I can't agree with.I'm not saying he would not win cause mayweather always find's a way to win(untill may 1 like how i got that in there)but i did feel he would have won those fights.But light year's ahead mmm don't know bout that.

I just dont se Shane winning Rome. I dont, but this IS Boxing and anything can happen.

[Tweezy316]

this is a dumb statement---i've fought for years, and i know boxing styles like the back of my hand, and the way to beat floyd is outhinking him when it comes to timing your movement and punches and agression---i don't see mosley winning more than 3 rounds, if that---mosley can listen to oscar all he want, who really lost to floyd by ud---max kellerman said it best---9 rounds to 3 and the rounds oscar won, he barely won and outlanded floyd---oscar always predicts against floyd until he dominates the guy oscar picks to win by a landslide---and floyd will dominate shane---shane fights very stiff but he fights hard, and this will make it look like he is competing with floyd, but floyd fights well against guys who fight hard and throw many punches, because floyd uses their aggression against them--that's what he did to oscar, floyd cruised in that fight, and oscar fought very hard, and started to use his aggression against him, landing punchhes through his combos and offsetting oscar very well---shane fights like a robot, but he fights with confidence until he gets tagged consistently coz shane will leave himself open for hooks and jabs---and when shane tries to jab to floyd's body, he will get countered by floyd----coz when shane throws the jab to the body, his position is so bad that even the slowest punches has a great chance of landing over it---floyd will landand step away at the same time, only to reposition himself to land another punch that shane won't expect--and he will keep shane off balance and disrupt his timing--this is what floyd is the master of---shane will lose this fight bad---then manny is next to get another loss on his record---oscar will once again have to eat his words once his partner loses to floyd bad---and oscar will be 0 for 3 in predicting who will beat floyd---he was wrong with hatton, jmm, and will be wrong with shane also---oscar couldn't get the job done and gbp almost robbed floyd---we all know when oscar jabbed, he landed only a few of them, and lost confidence in it, only to explain that he didn't know why he stopped using it----this guy is a professional and turned pro before floyd did and couldn't explain why he stopped using the only punch that seemed to work for him that night----he always says he woulda coulda and shoulda did this and that in the fight with mayweather jr, but he didn't---because he wasn't skilled enough to beat floyd and neither is shane and neither is manny----and clottey---

oscar says he found it easy in the mayweather fight---but he lost, and the rounds he did lose, he lost one sidedly---he tired himself out and that's because floyd landed punches that tired oscar out and offset his rhythm enough to get himself more fatigued and move in directions he didn't want to move in--thus having to move more than he wanted to, and as soon as oscar dropped his guard for one second, he was nailed consistently by floyd, bucked by floyd, could have been knocked out in the 12th round when floyd staggered him, had floyd pushed the action more---oscar and hopkins can say what shane'll do all they want, floyd is going to dictate this fight and shane's movement--and he will be stronger than shane in this fight also, i truly believe floyd will hurt shane---he will throw more combos at shane, and we have to remember something about how floyd throws his punches---he throws them perfect, very sharp, form many angles, and while feinting---he counters while feinting, he lands jabs and hooks and right hand leads while feinting and i wouldn't be surprised if floyd turned southpaw on shane and hurts him when he does it---this is floyd's fight folks---shane is in for a long night as well as goldenboy promotions---wait and see---

You shut it down! Can't nobody argue with that.

[educator06]

What's going on educ.i've been in here holding it down man time to play catch up

man and you hold it down too!!!! i wish more people would listen to you and realize that you have a lot of valid points instead of just hating on the facts you spit. keep it up bro.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Let's go through a hypothetical scenario. Marquez is still P4P #2. If Marquez decides to compete at HW and calls out V. Klit, and Vitali accepts his challenge are you telling me that you're going to cosign this fight? You're telling me this is a legit fight because Marquez can make the weight and is #2 in some mythical, make believe rankings? Lol. Now let's say they fight and Vitali destroys Marquez in the first round with a jab. Are you telling me Vitali is so awesome because he beat JMM? LMAO. I hope not.

No Sir. LOL. I wouldn't co-sign the fight, but if JMM won I would call him the HW champ(he would've earned it right?). I also would also not consider VK awesome for beating JMM either.