Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mosley Can't Get Mad at Mayweather

[Tweezy316]

I don't care for Pac or May. They both irk my nerves in different ways. At least Pac is exciting to watch and gives me my money's worth (even though I haven't paid for a fight in a long time). Lol. Both are some primma donnas. That's why I'm a huge Cotto fan and have a lot of respect for Mosley. Both just love to fight. Mosley is getting jerked around by Mayweather even though he has a lot of leverage since May basically needs him. If May wasn't fighting Mosley, who would he be fighting? Malignaggi? Bradley? Those aren't legit fights. But Mosley just wanted the fight. He didn't try to squeeze any more money out like he probably could have. Good for him. I don't care about his finances. I'm just here for the fights. The bottom line is, MAYWEATHER DIDN'T MAKE WEIGHT FOR THE MARQUEZ FIGHT BECAUSE THE FINE WASN'T HIGH ENOUGH TO DETER HIM FROM DOING IT. THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED PRECEDENCE. HAD THAT NEVER HAPPENED, YOU WOULD HAVE A POINT. BUT IT DID. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A POINT. MAY REQUIRING MOSLEY TO GO THROUGH RANDOM TESTING IS LEGIT, SINCE MOSLEY HAS HISTORY. PRECEDENCE IS KEY.

Your logic is weird. You say Mosley is gettin jerked around by the biggest draw in boxing but yet Pac offers Clottey 90/10 split and that's ok? Ok Mayweather didn't make weight for the Marquez fight but when did he ever fail to make weight at 147? And then you say Mayweather didn't make weight because the fine wasn't big enough well then that's like saying Pacquiao could be on steroids because the testing isn't good enough and he can't be detected. So I fail to see your logic.

[ATL_Boxer]

He fought a light-wt that was #2 P4P and with arguably 2 wins over the #1 guy not just a light-wt and he was coming off a 2 year layoff. I'm not sure so many would've beaten Marquez. It's easy to say but not easy to do. May turned down Oscar because he was the bigger man and smart enough to not fight a guy being trained by his Dad. No offense my dude but I dont have much conversation for a guy who thinks Pac is doing the right thing cause the only thing right to do is come clean wouldn't you say? Money is doing quite well w/o Pac but I can't say the same for Pac. 6 Milli vs 30+ you do the math. Which would you say is better for Boxing knowing the fighters are clean or not knowing?

You're drunk if you think Mosley, Cotto, and Margs wouldn't mop the floor with JMM. I happen to think that Mosley could wipe the floor with Pac if they ever meet at 147. Some fighters can't scale the weight classes like others. Marquez is one of them. If Mayweather cared about cleaning up the sport he would have gone to the commission to make it a requirement for EVERY fight, not just his. Are the fighters under his banner undergoing Olympic style bloodtesting? No. This is all a charade. Is Amir Khan doing random bloodtesting for his fight against Malignaggi? No. Because Golden Boy and Mayweather don't have "good hearted" reasons for requiring it for Manny. No one was talking about steroids until Mayweather Sr. said something now all of a sudden people are crusaders. Give me a break. If you can't see the forest through the trees, that's your problem. These people care about themselves and nothing more. They're no better than politicians. Talk the talk to get you on their side, then flip you the bird after they get what they want. Oh, and Marion Jones NEVER tested positive either. You can never catch everyone. The drug makers are ALWAYS one step ahead of the testers. OH, AND THAT P4P TALK IS ALL CRAP. IF HOPKINS FOUGHT MARQUEZ AND BEAT WHO WOULD GIVE HIM CREDIT?? NO ONE! Pound 4 Pound rankings are a joke in my honest opinion. There are weight classes for a reason.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I wouldn't say PBF is untouchable but barely touchable yes. Im saying Cheato would've got smoked/ I don't even know why you or anyone would even bring up Cheato's name in here. I'm a real boxing fan and I know this aint the most competitive time in boxing. PBF is just light years above the fighters of his era. it's not like we got a Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Pryor,etc. Me and any other real boxing fan know that but right now these dudes can't F with Floyd.

Mosley can and that's why everybody's gonna pay to see it.AS far as Cotto Marga's we never seen those fight's so it's all opinion but light year's ahead of fighter's he never fought is something I can't agree with.I'm not saying he would not win cause mayweather always find's a way to win(untill may 1 like how i got that in there)but i did feel he would have won those fights.But light year's ahead mmm don't know bout that.

[Sugar Q]

I don't care for Pac or May. They both irk my nerves in different ways. At least Pac is exciting to watch and gives me my money's worth (even though I haven't paid for a fight in a long time). Lol. Both are some primma donnas. That's why I'm a huge Cotto fan and have a lot of respect for Mosley. Both just love to fight. Mosley is getting jerked around by Mayweather even though he has a lot of leverage since May basically needs him. If May wasn't fighting Mosley, who would he be fighting? Malignaggi? Bradley? Those aren't legit fights. But Mosley just wanted the fight. He didn't try to squeeze any more money out like he probably could have. Good for him. I don't care about his finances. I'm just here for the fights. The bottom line is, MAYWEATHER DIDN'T MAKE WEIGHT FOR THE MARQUEZ FIGHT BECAUSE THE FINE WASN'T HIGH ENOUGH TO DETER HIM FROM DOING IT. THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED PRECEDENCE. HAD THAT NEVER HAPPENED, YOU WOULD HAVE A POINT. BUT IT DID. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A POINT. MAY REQUIRING MOSLEY TO GO THROUGH RANDOM TESTING IS LEGIT, SINCE MOSLEY HAS HISTORY. PRECEDENCE IS KEY.

Mosley getting jerked around or squeezing more money out? Mosley is getting more for fighting Floyd than Pac is getting for Clottey. This is Shane's biggest payday of his career and also, you say a Bradley fight wouldn't be legit? Bradley wouldn't win but he is a undefeated champion and would bring it and be very tough. Marquez got his career biggest payday for the PBF fight then got an extra 600gs for May coming in 2 lbs over. I never heard Marquez complain one time.

[ATL_Boxer]

NIIIIICE!!!!!! It's not for me to say weather he BELONGS at WW or JWW, or LW. But I tell you what homie and correct me if Im wrong. IF JMM puts on weight to contest at HW(LMAO) and wins a bout that has the HW title on the line, is he recognized as the HW champ?

Let's go through a hypothetical scenario. Marquez is still P4P #2. If Marquez decides to compete at HW and calls out V. Klit, and Vitali accepts his challenge are you telling me that you're going to cosign this fight? You're telling me this is a legit fight because Marquez can make the weight and is #2 in some mythical, make believe rankings? Lol. Now let's say they fight and Vitali destroys Marquez in the first round with a jab. Are you telling me Vitali is so awesome because he beat JMM? LMAO. I hope not.

[Rome-By-Ko]

It is good advice from Oscar but it's already too late. Shane is already talking about knocking May out. He's going to come in there swinging that hard right hook like he did against Mayorga and Cotto. When that punch misses (and it will miss often), Floyd will land that overhand left that Shane is susceptible too anyway. Look for a lot of feigning from Floyd to draw those hard punches. That's the key to Floyd's victory IMO.

Keep sleeping on mosley skill's can't wait till may 2.

[Tweezy316]

Mosley can and that's why everybody's gonna pay to see it.AS far as Cotto Marga's we never seen those fight's so it's all opinion but light year's ahead of fighter's he never fought is something I can't agree with.I'm not saying he would not win cause mayweather always find's a way to win(untill may 1 like how i got that in there)but i did feel he would have won those fights.But light year's ahead mmm don't know bout that.

Just make sure on May 2nd you're not on here talking about how old Mosley is aight

[Rome-By-Ko]

Zab was at 147 a year or so before Floyd. ANNNNNDDD that was Zab's last fight at 140(I think, or 2nd to last). And Floyd fought ChopChop right after Zab being that Zab got a split D over ChopChop gives Floyd a lil bit more credit since Floyd UD'd him. IMO.

i brought up the fact that zab beat chop chop to prove chop chop was not on floyd's level.There has been few fight's in the past that I got really excited about and judah and chop chop was never one of umm

[pbftxrs316]

I think the best person to tell us the strategy is not posters from here, but rather people who have boxed or sparred Floyd.Then you can give a detailed personal customised way on the blueprint to beat Floyd.

this is a dumb statement---i've fought for years, and i know boxing styles like the back of my hand, and the way to beat floyd is outhinking him when it comes to timing your movement and punches and agression---i don't see mosley winning more than 3 rounds, if that---mosley can listen to oscar all he want, who really lost to floyd by ud---max kellerman said it best---9 rounds to 3 and the rounds oscar won, he barely won and outlanded floyd---oscar always predicts against floyd until he dominates the guy oscar picks to win by a landslide---and floyd will dominate shane---shane fights very stiff but he fights hard, and this will make it look like he is competing with floyd, but floyd fights well against guys who fight hard and throw many punches, because floyd uses their aggression against them--that's what he did to oscar, floyd cruised in that fight, and oscar fought very hard, and started to use his aggression against him, landing punchhes through his combos and offsetting oscar very well---shane fights like a robot, but he fights with confidence until he gets tagged consistently coz shane will leave himself open for hooks and jabs---and when shane tries to jab to floyd's body, he will get countered by floyd----coz when shane throws the jab to the body, his position is so bad that even the slowest punches has a great chance of landing over it---floyd will landand step away at the same time, only to reposition himself to land another punch that shane won't expect--and he will keep shane off balance and disrupt his timing--this is what floyd is the master of---shane will lose this fight bad---then manny is next to get another loss on his record---oscar will once again have to eat his words once his partner loses to floyd bad---and oscar will be 0 for 3 in predicting who will beat floyd---he was wrong with hatton, jmm, and will be wrong with shane also---oscar couldn't get the job done and gbp almost robbed floyd---we all know when oscar jabbed, he landed only a few of them, and lost confidence in it, only to explain that he didn't know why he stopped using it----this guy is a professional and turned pro before floyd did and couldn't explain why he stopped using the only punch that seemed to work for him that night----he always says he woulda coulda and shoulda did this and that in the fight with mayweather jr, but he didn't---because he wasn't skilled enough to beat floyd and neither is shane and neither is manny----and clottey---

oscar says he found it easy in the mayweather fight---but he lost, and the rounds he did lose, he lost one sidedly---he tired himself out and that's because floyd landed punches that tired oscar out and offset his rhythm enough to get himself more fatigued and move in directions he didn't want to move in--thus having to move more than he wanted to, and as soon as oscar dropped his guard for one second, he was nailed consistently by floyd, bucked by floyd, could have been knocked out in the 12th round when floyd staggered him, had floyd pushed the action more---oscar and hopkins can say what shane'll do all they want, floyd is going to dictate this fight and shane's movement--and he will be stronger than shane in this fight also, i truly believe floyd will hurt shane---he will throw more combos at shane, and we have to remember something about how floyd throws his punches---he throws them perfect, very sharp, form many angles, and while feinting---he counters while feinting, he lands jabs and hooks and right hand leads while feinting and i wouldn't be surprised if floyd turned southpaw on shane and hurts him when he does it---this is floyd's fight folks---shane is in for a long night as well as goldenboy promotions---wait and see---

[Rome-By-Ko]

Chop/Zab was a very tough fight. Remember Chop almost KO'd Cotto after the Zab fight. Chop fought Bailey, Zab, PBF, Tyson then Cotto. All top ranked dudes and loss to Zab, PBF and Cotto.

But cotto beat both of them(he did get a gift against chop chop bad stoppage)I just never was sold on zab either he had talent.When kos mad him do the chicken dance zab was done lol.