Does Abraham have 1 loss?

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  • KESSLER
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pantera2000
    Abraham is officially undefeated. But we all know he was given a gift against Miranda....
    Your avatar is badass, man. Banks got knocked the FUCK OUT. Was brutal.

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    • daggum
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      #12
      miranda won that fight. he won about 8 rounds and the only point deduction that was legit was the headbutt. the rest were terrible. the fact the judges would of had abraham winning without any point deductions is mental. maybe they were paying homage to the great sven ottke.

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      • Shadows
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        #13
        Originally posted by daggum
        miranda won that fight. he won about 8 rounds and the only point deduction that was legit was the headbutt. the rest were terrible. the fact the judges would of had abraham winning without any point deductions is mental. maybe they were paying homage to the great sven ottke.

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        • Ben_London
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          #14
          Originally posted by daggum
          miranda won that fight. he won about 8 rounds and the only point deduction that was legit was the headbutt. the rest were terrible. the fact the judges would of had abraham winning without any point deductions is mental. maybe they were paying homage to the great sven ottke.
          LOL, refs when they get to Germany suddenly prevent you from boxing. Remember Ottke vs Reid. Reid got warned for fighting.

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          • ИATAS
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            #15
            I thought Miranda should have won for a number of reasons - first off, 5 points was ridiculously bad. Second, Abraham clearly "quit" or didn't want to continue when there was like that 10 minutes of everyone trying to figure out what the hell was going on. The fight should have been stopped right then and there.

            With that said, he didn't technically lose and he beat Miranda in the rematch badly, so it erases any doubts of who was/is the better fighter.

            I will always believe Miranda got screwed that night in Germany though, but that's part of the risk fighting in another guys backyard.

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            • NAPO
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              #16
              Miranda won that fight, but Abraham showed he is the superior fighter.

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              • The_Demon
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                #17
                na he is undefeated

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                • New Life 79
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                  #18
                  If i remember right, Eastman gave Abraham a very, very close fight that could have gone either way. Even if the scorecard say otherwise, but then again the fight was in Germany if i remember it correct.

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                  • -Spinal-
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                    #19
                    A lot of undefeated boxers have unofficial losses. I thought Taylor at least fought to a draw against Pavlik in the rematch but I honestly thought he won the fight 115-113 and I saw several other people including The New York Times had the same score as I did for Taylor. He could have been the first to defeat Pavlik if it wasn;t for politics and the rule of "The undefeated fighter gets the nod in close fights
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                    Calzaghe supposedly lost to Hopkins(I don't think so but a lot of people thought he did). A lot of people still, to this day, thought Mayweather lost the first Castillo fight. Several people thought Jones lost the first Tarver fight(which would have been his first official loss if he did lose).

                    It's just something we have t deal with in Boxing until something really strict happens.
                    Last edited by -Spinal-; 03-04-2010, 06:26 PM.

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                    • -Spinal-
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                      #20
                      Also Guzman vs Funeka, and a lot of people thought Hopkins beat Taylor in their first match(Bully says Hopkins defeated him in both).

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