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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostOk, so how come Corley fought Floyd and Cotto didn't? Considering
both weren't on Floyd's level? Floyd only fought at 140 twice if I'm
not mistaken and Cotto started his pro career there. Cotto
was at the Gatti fight with Hatton because they were potential
opponents. So how can people say Cotto was green? Arum knew
Cotto would have been demolished if he got in the ring with Floyd.
I NEVER believed Cotto could beat Floyd from watching him fight.
My sig says it all. Floyd wanted a guaranteed 10MIL for Cotto and
Hatton to fight Margarito for 8MIL but Arum couldn't guarantee that
so the fights didn't happen. Arum also couldn't guarantee Floyd 20MIL
for the Oscar fight but guess what? Floyd made the fight on his own
and got the 20MIL and it was on. I have no doubt in my mind that
if Arum got up that 10MIL for Cotto/Hatton that Floyd would have
fought them both and Margarito for the 8MIL. In actuality, who
did Floyd duck? I still would like to know?
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI think the injury was the biggest handicap. Not ruling
out that he could have underestimated JLC but an injury
is an injury none the less.
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Originally posted by romebyko View PostYea a hard one to debate.But i stand by what i said i felt may lost this fight and for it to have u.d. that's when i smell some bull**** was amist.But it's the only fight i felt he lost so that's saying alot
split would have been a lil more appropriate considering the
work JLC put in on Floyd in that fight. The 2nd fight was scored
closer which was a lil ironic considering JLC couldn't get Floyd
in the same situations he did in the first fight.
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Originally posted by djcmd View PostFirst off, I was at the Mayweather/Sosa fight and Floyd did not lose that fight at all. You must don't know boxing. 2ndly, pressure don't win fights. Accurate punching does and Floyd led on all scorecards for the JLC fight. Do your homework. He had a rotator cuff injury so it disabled him a bit but he did outbox JLC. The 2nd fight was a little closer but Floyd still won that as well. Anyone who just watched the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight and didn't get caught into the commentary trap could easily see that Oscar didn't connect that much in the fight. Again heavy pressure and activity doesn't win fights, clean, effective, accurate punching and ring generalship does. So when people respond on here about boxing, learn how to watch boxing matches without commentary and being bias, and look at punches landed. A punch that hits an elbow, an arm, or shoulder does not count towards a landed punch. It's considered a block, and don't get me wrong, Oscar, Victoriano Sosa, Jose Luis Castillo, Ricky Hatton, Zab Judah, De Marcus Corley, Tony Pep, Phillip N'Dou, and a couple others had their moments but all either got outboxed or knocked out. So until someone actually beats Mayweather there shouldn't be hatred or bias towards him just becuz many think that he's ****y, and a **** talker. Holla back if you want some more boxing tips from a soon to be judge licensed with the California/Nevada State Athletic Commission
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI saw the fight as well and since they gave it to Floyd I felt a
split would have been a lil more appropriate considering the
work JLC put in on Floyd in that fight. The 2nd fight was scored
closer which was a lil ironic considering JLC couldn't get Floyd
in the same situations he did in the first fight.
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Originally posted by slipjab73 View PostMayweather's tactics work effectively and that's why people will buy the PPV between him and Mosley. It's all about money and nothing more. He can mention anyhting he wants to agitate his opponent, its fair game. Mosley took steroids 9 years ago but it's not like he came forward and admitted it. He was forced by a Federal Grand Jury to admit his use. To add insult to injury, he even had the nerve to say he didn't know he was using illegal substances. Don't paint Mosley out to be this innocent person because he's not. We downgraded Margarito for cheating but Mosley get's a free pass. If that's not a double standard then what is?
shane's not crying, he has the right idea. he says once they get in the ring, their fists will be the only things talking. everybody needs to sit back and enjoy this ****, it hasn't even started yet. wait till the 24/7 debuts!
Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI think that most people do not take into consideration that
Floyd was injured in the first JLC fight and the 2nd one showed
that he could handle JLC and beat him more convincingly
putting an end to the first fight but many keep going on
the first fight disregarding the 2nd one.
Originally posted by romebyko View PostYea a hard one to debate.But i stand by what i said i felt may lost this fight and for it to have u.d. that's when i smell some bull**** was amist.But it's the only fight i felt he lost so that's saying alot
personally, i had clottey beating cotto by a point, but watching that fight, there were about 4 rounds that could've really went either way.
when a fight's as close as that, no matter how it turns out, you can't say it was robbery or a bull**** decision. what is bull**** however, was that one judge scoring the oscar-mayweather fight for oscar....that wasn't a close fight at all.
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Originally posted by TYREL View Postnot only that, ppl also fail to remember when floyd was having his reported problems with the IRS, shane mosley had some **** to say about that. when floyd gets personal with shane, everybody feels bad for the guy and calls floyd a bully and immature.....it's funny.
shane's not crying, he has the right idea. he says once they get in the ring, their fists will be the only things talking. everybody needs to sit back and enjoy this ****, it hasn't even started yet. wait till the 24/7 debuts!
good post.
a close fight is not a bull**** decision, whether it's a UD, a SD, or a draw. how many times in a fight, have there been rounds that were too close to call, and you saw them going one way, and somebody else watching the same damn fight, saw the round for the other guy.
personally, i had clottey beating cotto by a point, but watching that fight, there were about 4 rounds that could've really went either way.
when a fight's as close as that, no matter how it turns out, you can't say it was robbery or a bull**** decision. what is bull**** however, was that one judge scoring the oscar-mayweather fight for oscar....that wasn't a close fight at all.
i didnt care who won but i remember saying to the tv before the decision that clottey just let it go, he didnt go for it convincingly...
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Originally posted by amayseng View Postya i think clottey let the cotto fight slip away... the last few rounds he just didnt give the effort to totally take the fight and with cotto trying to score enough gave him the nod...
i didnt care who won but i remember saying to the tv before the decision that clottey just let it go, he didnt go for it convincingly...
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