Some ICEY Mike Tyson history for you guys...

[Left2body]

It used to be that if a fight was very tough and close going into the last round you told your guy WORK! You NEED this round or u lose!! I won several big national amateur fights like that....and have seen some thrilling finishes but now? Not sure if u know this or not but each corner is made aware of the score between rounds so if you are heading into the last round and are up by a score of 15-4?? You literally just tell your guy "Don't get hit, that's all"...and he moves around, limits the action, etc...15-4 in computer scoring is almost IMPOSSIBLE to overcome under those roles by a guy who decides he's not going to let his opponent catch up...as the man said, "The thrill is gone, baby..."

I've literally seen in the Pan-Am games trainers use the strategy of getting a lead in the first 1-2 rounds then run in DLH vs Trinidad fashion. Made for very anti-climatic fights.

Not to mention body punches have about 1% chance of getting scored as a point.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I've literally seen in the Pan-Am games trainers use the strategy of getting a lead in the first 1-2 rounds then run in DLH vs Trinidad fashion. Made for very anti-climatic fights.

Not to mention body punches have about 1% chance of getting scored as a point.

EXACTLY...running in the last round when u are ahead is ENCOURAGED...

[Guest]

I was at the World Amateur Championships in 2007 and although I love boxing, I was getting so annoyed at the scoring.

And they didn't reward body shots at all.


It's just so difficult with the computer. You literally have to make the guy quit to get a win.

I saw at least two flat out robberies in the semi-finals.

I was getting very annoyed by guys doing good work and not getting rewarded for it.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

unless some American kid starts knocking people OUT in the amateurs there will be no way for promoters, etc to really and truly gague the talent of a guy as long as he is boxing under the computer scoring rules...its like a light saber fight compared to a match of fencing...

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I was at the World Amateur Championships in 2007 and although I love boxing, I was getting so annoyed at the scoring.

And they didn't reward body shots at all.

That's the BIGGEST bias against USA boxers maybe...especially ones with pro designs...body punching is apparently not even considered in the current amateur boxing world...

[The Surgeon]

Well, the problem now is that even being an EXTREMELY accomplished amateur, winning all the titles, etc etc doesnt mean much at all in regard to pro boxing, all it means is that you have mastered the fencing like style of amateur boxing and the INSANE computer system that goes a long with it...

True that its almost like two different sports now

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

The cool thing about this is that more than 13 years later I asked Tyson about this guy and not only did he know that Jimmy had passed away but he knew how (drowned), too...

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Bump up for the Tyson fans...a friend of mine told me he met Tyson over this past weekend at a store in Las Vegas and that mike was VERY cool and friendly with him...I'm not surprised...

[Joey Giardello]

Is it True as a amateur Mike Tyson was stopped in the first round in a fight?

[check hook]

Dude go to youtube and search Hearns vs Pryor. It is an amazing amateur fight better than the vast majority of pro fights.

Kostya Tszyu vs Vernon Forrest is a good amatuer fight to watch also......