M. Moorer Best Light HW Ever

[oldgringo]

McKay you just got taught a history lesson about something you obviously don't know like the back of your hand (Qawi, MSM and the Lt. Heavy seen at that time) and now you're reduced to calling people ****heads and using defense mechanisms. Sometimes you just have to take what people have told you into consideration and realize that you may not be 100% correct. Just a thought.

[The Troll]

One other thing Jerry Martin sucks. That is one of Quawi's tremendous 4 defences that you claim makes him all time top 10.

Eddie Davis sucks he lost a guy not long before fighting Quawi that was 11-11 and he lost to less than a world beater in Marvin Johnson shortly after loosing to Quawi. Saad Muhammad is a solid opponent, Saad Muhaamad is the only solid opponent Quawi faced. It seems though Saad Muhammad was way passed his prime when he faced Quawi.

Saad Muhammad's following 5 fights after loosing to Quawi
L TKO 3 Eric Winbush 11-6
W KO 10 Larry Davis 9-24
L TKO 11 Willie Edwards 17-1
W TKO 6 Chris Wells 13-15
L PTS Uriah Grant 7-2

Quite obvious Muhammad was way way way past his prime when Quawi faced him. Quawi beat Muhammae twice and Winbush beat him once. So I guess Winbush should be in your top 20 all time then too if we are to follow that logic.

Your saying this bull**** record competes with Michalczewski's all time record of 24 consecutive title defences 21 by KO and Virgil Hill's in total 22 title defences. That is totally ridiculous.

The only thing people remember Quawi for was his war with HOlyfield at cruiserweight, nothing else.

[Yogi]

No way is is he all time top ten Light heavy for beating Muhammad twice and those 2 other Jamokes to defend the WBA belt 4 times in total. I dont care what ring magainze has to say about it.

Swooooosh!

The whole point of my post went completely over your head, didn't it? Apparently so.

If you can find where I mentioned that Braxton/Qawi should be considered one of the ten greatest light heavyweights of all-time, that might make this post of yours (which quotes mine) just slightly more than utterly and friggin' pointless.

As they say...Ignorance is bliss!

P.S. Considering you have such a high opinion of fighters who make a bunch of meaningless title defenses, I assume you must rate Samson Dutch Boy Gym right up there with the greatest fighters of all-time, yes?

*McKay runs off to boxrec to find out who that is, as is his normal custom when discussing fighters he knows absolutely nothing about*

[The Troll]

Swooooosh!

The whole point of my post went completely over your head, didn't it? Apparently so.

If you can find where I mentioned that Braxton/Qawi should be considered one of the ten greatest light heavyweights of all-time, that might make this post of yours (which quotes mine) just slightly more than utterly and friggin' pointless.

As they say...Ignorance is bliss!

P.S. Considering you have such a high opinion of fighters who make a bunch of meaningless title defenses, I assume you must rate Samson Dutch Boy Gym right up there with the greatest fighters of all-time, yes?

Somebody else said than that Dwight Braxton should be rated higher all time at light heavyweight than Michalczewski, the man who holds the all time record for consecutive title defences and Virgil Hill. Sorry if it was not you. But Quawi was not **** at Lt heavyweight really.
*McKay runs off to boxrec to find out who that is, as is his normal custom when discussing fighters he knows absolutely nothing about*

Somebody else said than that Dwight Braxton should be rated higher all time at light heavyweight than the man who holds the all time record for consecutive title defences(Michalczewski) and Virgil Hill. Sorry if it was not you, but that kind of utter turd**** can not go uncorrected.

[The Troll]

*McKay runs off to boxrec to find out who that is, as is his normal custom when discussing fighters he knows absolutely nothing about*

Nobody knows nothing about Quawi because he is a blip on the radar screen in the obscure annals of boxing only known for his brutal fights at cruiserweight with Evander Holyfield. If Braxton Never fought Holyfiled, Nobody would have any idea who he was. Braxton's finest hour was his loosing but noble effort against Holyfield at cruiserweight.

And its seriously nothign other than ******ed to contend that this guy is some kind of Lt Heavyweight Legend.

[Yogi]

Nobody knows nothing about Quawi because he is a blip on the radar screen in the obscure annals of boxing only known for his brutal fights at cruiserweight with Evander Holyfield. If Braxton Never fought Holyfiled, Nobody would have any idea who he was. Braxton's finest hour was his loosing but noble effort against Holyfield at cruiserweight.

And its seriously nothign other than ******ed to contend that this guy is some kind of Lt Heavyweight Legend.

Just cause you don't have a friggin clue as to who Braxton was as a light heavyweight doesn't mean there aren't plenty of boxing fans who are/were aware of how good this guy was in his light heavyweight days.

And yeah, I had a very good idea who Braxton was when he fought in that ESPN tournament and especially after seeing him demolish Rossman on network television (which certainly opposes your "nobody would know who he is if he didn't fight Holyfield" comment).

Hey McKay, I'm forced to ask this...How many fights have you actually seen of Braxton's from his light heavyweight days? I guessing none, because you seem to be forming your opinion of him entirely by running over to boxrec. But nonetheless, amuse me with an answer to that question, would you?

[The Troll]

Just cause you don't have a friggin clue as to who Braxton was as a light heavyweight doesn't mean there aren't plenty of boxing fans who are/were aware of how good this guy was in his light heavyweight days.

And yeah, I had a very good idea who Braxton was when he fought in that ESPN tournament and especially after seeing him demolish Rossman on network television (which certainly opposes your "nobody would know who he is if he didn't fight Holyfield" comment).

Hey McKay, I'm forced to ask this...How many fights have you actually seen of Braxton's from his light heavyweight days? I guessing none, because you seem to be forming your opinion of him entirely by running over to boxrec. But nonetheless, amuse me with an answer to that question, would you?

He only fought 5 half way decent guys at Light Heavyweight, Why should I know who he is. His **** was probably not even TV worthy back then in 1982.

[Yogi]

I am going to get the calculator out. and calculate the combined win loss total of Braxton's opponents at Lt Heavyweight.

While you're at it, Ranger, can you please tell me why Lamar Clark isn't even close to being considered a better heavyweight than the previously mentioned, Evander Holyfield (Clark had a much better win/loss record than Evander)?

P.S. From the Rossman fight, Braxton had every one of his light heavyweight fights broadcast on network television.

[Knicksman20]

I am going to get the calculator out. and calculate the combined win loss total of Braxton's opponents at Lt Heavyweight.

Records can be deceiving & just because you might be undefeated you could have a padded record. Prime example is Ricky Hatton. Jose Luis Castillo has 7 defeats to his name & that guy is a badass. Emanuel has over 15 losses & is a hellava fighter. Don't get too caught up in the stats of boxing because it can be deceiving.

[The Troll]

Its not about win loss percentages. Its about title defences. If you make title defences your facing quality opposition. In that the very least your facing the mandatory #1 contenders on a consistant basis. You say having alot title defences means nothing. I think that is ridiculous.