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    Ice's random results section...

    Talking in another thread about Tyson in a 1983 amateur fight...for those interested you know your out there ...I'll post a few here and there...the more interesting ones...like, for example, at 132 pounds in the 1983 New England Golden Gloves Irish Mickey Ward scored a decision over future WBA champion Joey Gamache...also, in the Western Mass. Golden Gloves tourney future welterweight champ Marlon Starling won two titles in FIVE tries in the late 1970's...losing to Wilbur Cameron, Felix Nance and Kevin Rooney...
  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    Lawrence Clay-Bey scored stoppage victories over both Lance Whitaker and Baby Joe Mesi

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    • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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      In the finals of the 1976 National Golden Gloves (I have it on video tape), at 132 pounds, future great Aaron "The Hawk" Pryor won a decision over another future legend in Tommy "Hit Man" Hearns (back when amateur boxers didn't wear head gears). Later on, in the qualifying tournament for the 1976 Olympics, Aaron defeated future WBA lightweight champion Hilmer Kenty before losing a decision to Howard Davis, Jr. (in what was the second time that Howard defeated Aaron as an amateur). Pryor also scored a 1976 decision over future IBF 140 pound world champion Gary Hinton. Hearns went on to beat Bobby Joe Young twice in 1977 as an amateur and also defeated Ronnie Shields the same year while future world 175 pound champion Michael Spinks lost a decision in the 1975 National AAU finals at 165 pounds to future well known trainer Tommy Brooks.

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      • apokalips
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        Keep it up...its a nice change of pace on NSB

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        • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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          Alex "The Bronx Bomber" Ramos, famous for his N.Y. Yankees pinstriped boxing trunks, told me that he scored a KO victory over Juan Domingo Roldan and split two fights with Tony "El Torito" Ayala. Alex tells me that he also scored big amateur wins over future world champs J.B. Williamson and Duane Thomas as well as a late 1970'S NYC Golden Gloves decision over future legend Mike "The Bodysnatcher" McCallum.

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          • Onslaught24
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            AWESOME! keep em coming Iceman! this is good

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              Future two-division World Champion Donald "Cobra" Curry defeated future WBA 154 pound champion Davey Moore in the 1980 Olympic Trials finals at 147 pounds. Moore advanced to the finals against Curry by winning a decision over future WBA 140 pound champion Gene "Mad Dog" Hatcher. Hatcher, meanwhile, gained the right to face Moore by winning the decision in a prelim fight against future WBA 160 pound champion John David Jackson.

              The 1978 National AAU tournament saw Curry defeat future contenders Pedro Vilella and Bobby Joe Young on the way to the welterweight crown.

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              • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                The 1976 U.S. Olympic Trials saw future heavyweight champions Michael Dokes and John Tate meet up in the semi-finals with Tate capturing the decision (reversing an earlier loss to Dokes) on his way to representing the United States at the Olympic Games that year (where he lost to the legend in the making that was Teofilo Stevenson of Cuba). Dokes, meanwhile, scored a 1976 National Golden Gloves decision victory over another fellow future heavyweight champion in Greg Page.

                As young Junior Olympians (aged 15 and under), future middleweight world champion Michael Nunn defeated future lightweight contender Charlie "White Lightning" Brown three times (Charlie told me this himself when we were in camp together in Glenwood Springs, Colorado in 1993). Nunn also scored a 1983 decision at the National Sports Festival in the 156 pound class over future world champ Frank Tate (Tate also defeated Nunn as an amateur in another bout while, as professionals, Nunn took the IBF 160 pound title from Frank in the summer of 1988)

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                • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                  Maybe the most impressive fact that resulted from Mark Breland's record setting five year reign as champion in the NYC Golden Gloves is that he scored stoppage victories in all five championship bouts that he participated in. Three of them ended in the first round, one in the second and the other in the third.

                  New York City Golden Gloves Finals:
                  1980: 139 Novice: Mark Breland, Spartan AC, Defeated Angel Garcia, Spartan AC, RSC (1:27 1st round)
                  1981: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Jose Martinez, Universe BC, RSC (2:22 2nd round)
                  1982: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Pedro Estrada, Universe BC, RSC-1 (0:51)
                  1983: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Rodney Bowen, Bed-Stuy BA, RSC (0:50 3rd round)
                  1984: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Victor Laguer, 18th Ave Gym, RSC (0:42 1st round)

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                  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                    The 1988 U.S. National Championships saw future WBA 154 pound Champion Carl Daniels win an opening day decision at featherweight (125 pounds) over fellow future champ Sharmba Mitchell.

                    Kelcie Banks lost in a big upset in the semi-finals of those same 88' U.S. Championships to Daniels at 125 but not before defeating future elite status World Champion Shane Mosley in the quarterfinals.

                    Carl Daniels had a spectacular week there at the 88' Nationals where he not only beat Banks and Mitchell but he also scored a decision over "Mighty" Ivan Robinson along the way.

                    To give you an idea of what type of competition is seen at these national tournaments, take a look at the quarterfinal round of those 1988 nationals in the loaded 125 pound division. Ivan Robinson, Vernon Forrest and Sugar Shane Mosley all were defeated (by Daniels, Myron Walker and Banks respectively) on the same day. Add that to the fact that you had Kevin "The Flushing Flash" Kelly lose in an earlier round of competition and you have yourself a DEEP Featherweight class.

                    At the 1988 Eastern U.S. Olympic Trials two future world champions matched up on opening day in a tussle that saw a young Sharmba Mitchell win a decision at 125 pounds over an even younger Vernon Forrest (I was there) before losing later in the competition to another future champ in Kevin Kelley. At the Eastern Trials one year earlier (Lake Placid, 1987) Mitchell won the 125 pound crown and defeated future world title challenger Virgil McClendon along the way.

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