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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #61
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    If Hagler would of went up to LHW and won a title then yes I might go with Hagler... But, Pac accomplishing what he has accomplished I have to put him over Hagler... However, a case can be made for Hagler... Whitaker is #1 without a doubt... But, those are the only guys that should be in any kind of discussion about being ahead of Pac...
    Thats not fair. You dont have to move up in weight to be great.

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    • corpse elf
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      #62
      Originally posted by baracuda
      bull****!......why is pac the fighter of the decade then?........lol
      siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh...typical....pacfan...respon se...so sad.

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        #63
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Yeah I mentioned him on my list. Man Pac wanst to be up there with the greats he needs to stop with the 145, shot **** and start fighting.

        Beating David Diaz, Hatton shot, Oscar shot and Cotto at 145 AND damaged goods. And Barerra and JMM isnt enough to make you the Number 2 ATG when he hasnt even fought the best guy in his era yet.


        You keep on mentioning excuses here,

        DD was a Champ that no one want to fight him at 135... LOL
        Maybee ODLH but they meet halfway with Pac from 135 moving up to 147, and ODLH come down to 147 from 154...
        Hatton??? a shot oh baby, He himselt proclaimed as the best fighter at 140lbs division out there.
        Cotto damage good who retires Jennings and give Clottey a tough competition even he was suffering with a big gusty cuts.

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        • jrosales13
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          #64
          Originally posted by check hook
          PAc is infinitely better at 147 than he has ever been....he is stronger, faster, has a better chin, hits harder........etc etc.....

          Pac at 130 is nothing compared to the one we have today......


          Serious questions:

          Pac v Floyd at 130......who wins???


          Floyd v EM, MAB, JMM at 130 who wins???


          I'm pretty sure you know the answer?????



          Now IMO Pac could beat floyd currently at 147....but 130 v 130 versions Floyd would KO PAC..........
          I don't know if I pick anybody to beat Floyd at 130... I rank him at #2 at 130 in all time... The only one I have ahead is Arguello... But, I wouldn't argue if somebody has Floyd at #1...

          But, that was not the point to the whole debate. What I said Pac win against Barrera the first time is better than any win that Floyd has in his resume... People for how highly touted Barrera was at the time... More so than Corrales... Around this time ESPN came out with there top 50 greatest all time and had Barrera up there... That is how highly touted he was at the time...

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            #65
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            In the lower weight-classes he wasn't as well rounded as he is now... I said that... But, lets talk when he became well rounded... Whitaker is the only one... Camacho was ruined by Edwin Rosario, you can debate the version of Camacho before he fought Rosario would beat Pac... But, yet Pac well rounded, fast enough, akward enough to really ruin Camacho... Ramirez? Really?

            P4P sense Winky didn't look good against an awkward Soliman... How are we so sure he could beat an awkward but much faster, stronger, powerful in a P4P sense in Pac?
            Pac now is a two handed fighter. Against those guys would be where he was just a one handed fighter.

            Well rounded Pac is different because he wouldnt have fought those guys. Wed have to line up some 140/147 pounders for a fair assessment.

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              #66
              Originally posted by corpse elf
              siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh...typical....pacfan...respon se...so sad.
              thats what you get for repeating the same **** all the time you racist piece of ****(goblin)......lol

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #67
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                I don't know if I pick anybody to beat Floyd at 130... I rank him at #2 at 130 in all time... The only one I have ahead is Arguello... But, I wouldn't argue if somebody has Floyd at #1...

                But, that was not the point to the whole debate. What I said Pac win against Barrera the first time is better than any win that Floyd has in his resume... People for how highly touted Barrera was at the time... More so than Corrales... Around this time ESPN came out with there top 50 greatest all time and had Barrera up there... That is how highly touted he was at the time...
                Barerra was P4P Number 4. Corralles was P4P Number 5. They was neck and neck.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Thats not fair. You dont have to move up in weight to be great.
                  You don't have to move up... Monzon didn't move up... But, when we start talking about P4P sense and ATG list people that moving up helps... Especially if it spanded 9 divisions. Is like people rank Greb and B. Leonard higher than Pep. Just due to fact that both Greb and Benny moved up weight-classes to challenge themselves. While Pep didn't

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                  • ELPacman
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                    #69
                    He's without a doubt the greatest offensive left hand fighter OAT. With that said, let's continue to make a case for him AFTER he retires.

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                      #70
                      He's the most exciting, thats for sure!

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