Burley didn't use that kind of style that Pep used... He was more into taking angles, shoulder roll, giving up half of the body, rolling with punches... While Pep was more of mover type, used the whole ring, used quick footwork... Two different styles...
They fought different. No doubt. BUT...Charlie Burley was slick as oil in the rain right?
Right.
He said Pep invented SLICK boxing. Hes wrong. Not only has boxing been around since 1500 BC. But Burley was fighting slick and he started his career before Pep did.
Burley didn't use that kind of style that Pep used... He was more into taking angles, shoulder roll, giving up half of the body, rolling with punches... While Pep was more of mover type, used the whole ring, used quick footwork... Two different styles...
Dude jrose....burner is an idiot who will hear or google one fight and try to pass if off as if he has knowledge on the sport of boxing.
They fought different. No doubt. BUT...Charlie Burley was slick as oil in the rain right?
Right.
He said Pep invented SLICK boxing. Hes wrong. Not only has boxing been around since 1500 BC. But Burley was fighting slick and he started his career before Pep did.
Sweat Pea, Ray leonard, and almost all the modern "slick" fighters took apart of willie's game an implemented in theirs. They have all have stated this in several interviews and there have been documentaries and numerous boxing insiders who co-signed this. Anyone who knows anything knows Pep was the "father" of this slick style of boxing.
Even though you showed no humilty...I'm glad you admited you didn't know. There is hope for you afterall.
Originally posted by No Ceilings
LMFAO. Boxing was around before Willie Pep was born.....hahaha.
You are wrong. Boxing is literally ONE of the oldest forms of competition period. Let me school you kid. I had a college paper on this.
Boxing dates back to as early as 1500 B.C. my dude. The**** was seen on the walls in Egypt among many places.....lol.
In the Greek Ancient Olympics it was one of the sports, they wrapped leather strips around they hands to use as gloves.
So since boxing is that ****ing old how can you say Willie Pep INVENTED the slick style? How? You dont ****ing know every boxer. Before Pep's grandparents, great , great, grandparents even met, there was boxing. So Im going to go out on a limb and say that he did not invent the "slick" style. Im pretty damn sure there were boxers that fought slick before Pep did...lol.
LOL...And I like Pep. I figured you would say him or Lochhe.
Too add- Your quote that you googled. Says that Leonard and a few others patterned they style after Pep. Maybe true. But to say a WHITE man invented boxing and all blacks copied Pep is ridiculous.
Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
name me a fighter who fought that style before him. Also why is it that all the great slick fighters like sweat p, sugar ray leonard and countless others say that he was the biggest influence on their careers. I mean good god....you are a ****in idiot.
BTW Im still waiting...name me a fighter who was fighting like that before him and also why is it every boxer insider credits him with inventing that style? Please answer those two questions.
Originally posted by No Ceilings
Too add- Your quote that you googled. Says that Leonard and a few others patterned they style after Pep. Maybe true. But to say a WHITE man invented boxing and all blacks copied Pep is ridiculous.
Boxing been around since 1500 BC you fool.
Originally posted by No Ceilings
Charlie Burley. His career started in 1938. Pep 1940.
But you knew that right?
lmao.
Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
You know one sign that a man is losing an arguement is the fact that he tries to put words in the other person mouth because he can't argue his points.
With that said....I never said Pep invented boxing. I said he was the father of that slick style of boxing. Everyone except new fans like you would know that. BTW I don't google **** because everything I post is straight off the dome.
Originally posted by jrosales13
Burley didn't use that kind of style that Pep used... He was more into taking angles, shoulder roll, giving up half of the body, rolling with punches... While Pep was more of mover type, used the whole ring, used quick footwork... Two different styles...
Originally posted by No Ceilings
They fought different. No doubt. BUT...Charlie Burley was slick as oil in the rain right?
Right.
He said Pep invented SLICK boxing. Hes wrong. Not only has boxing been around since 1500 BC. But Burley was fighting slick and he started his career before Pep did.
show me proof that burley was fighting slick before pep did. Yes he started his career before him but that is not proof enough...Like I said show me proof because there are guys who actually lived around that time and have co-signed Pep as the one who fathered that slick style of boxing. Now that is not to say that there weren't guys who implemented things here and there before Pep, its just that Pep put it all together and started using that style before everyone.
show me proof that burley was fighting slick before pep did. Yes he started his career before him but that is not proof enough...Like I said show me proof because there are guys who actually lived around that time and have co-signed Pep as the one who fathered that slick style of boxing. Now that is not to say that there weren't guys who implemented things here and there before Pep, its just that Pep put it all together and started using that style before everyone.
Bro. We dont have to flame. Lets settle down. You said a white man invented the slick style of boxing and black fighters copied it. You said Pep INVENTED the slick style of boxing.
Thats what you said.
I said. How? Boxing has been around since 1500 BC. So in other words we dont know who the first slick fighter was.
Now then you said that Sweet Pea, Leonard and whoever else said Pep had a great influence on they career.
I said. Maybe true. Still doesn't change the fact that Pep didn't "invent" slick boxing.
Then you said. Name me a fighter who was slick before Pep. I said Charlie Burley. He was born before Pep and started his career before Pep did.
Burley is the greatest fighter that no one knows. Pep got his chances. He got fame and glory. Now if you want to say that Pep influenced Leonard. Fine. Great I would hope so.
But if you say Pep INVENTED slick boxing. I have a problem with that.
He was slick. Charles Burley very skilled fighter. I wouldn't say he was as slick as Willie Pep was... And, they also used different styles... I mean Pep won a round with throwing a punch that is how masterful he was definsevily... I have Pep as the 2nd greatest defensive fighter of all time. So maybe I am not the right person to ask...
Another great scientific boxer of all time is Benny Leonard. Who was white was pretty slick. But, his style was different then Pep... And, Leonard started his career way before Pep or Burley did. I have Benny Leonard in the top 10 greatest defensive fighter of all time...
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